African Fractal Village(s)

  • AllFractUp avatar
    AllFractUp 18 Jun 2011 18:21
    Are there any videographers in or traveling to Africa that can shoot the African fractal villages as seen in this TED video?

    http://www.ted.com/talks/ron_eglash_on_african_fractals.html
  • erichon avatar
    erichon 18 Jun 2011 20:40
    Yes we are in Africa travelling round, having crossed Africa shooting a documentary. What exactly do you need? Can noy watch the video link, speed is terrible here!
    Cheers
    Eric
  • AllFractUp avatar
    AllFractUp 19 Jun 2011 02:59
    Eric,

    There are supposed to be villages built as redundant shapes called fractals. The overall shape of the village appears to have a single point of entry and exit. I will see if I can get some photo links for you. What I would like are 1920x1080p video clips of these villages.

    More pending...
  • AllFractUp avatar
    AllFractUp 19 Jun 2011 03:10
    Here are the links to what I am looking for. Would you be able to shoot more than one village with a fractal design? I can buy these from your portfolio on Pond5.

    (main google search)
    http://www.google.com/search?q=african+fractal+villages&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=698&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=LWb9Te2hM-f00gHBp5m8Aw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CA0Q_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=572

    (specific links)
    http://www.miqel.com/images_1/fractal_math_patterns/fractal_technology/african_fractal_ba-Ila_vill.gif

    http://complexity.orconhosting.net.nz/africanfractal.jpg

    http://complexity.orconhosting.net.nz/fractal.html

    http://aziarts.com/air/Resource%20Pics/fractals/african3.jpg
  • erichon avatar
    erichon 19 Jun 2011 06:44
    As far as I have seen the jpegs you are refering to ordinary villages here in Africa, there was a pic from a Togon village, a Masai Kral etc. Do you mean you need real footage of such villages? Let me know! Maybe you can explain in more detail what your project is and what you plan to do - a rough outline would do.

    Eric
  • AllFractUp avatar
    AllFractUp 19 Jun 2011 14:22
    Eric,

    Really? Hmm...The way it is portrayed is like this is a peculiar phenomenon. How long will you be in Africa? Can you film them from their exterior perimeter and then perhaps get an interior shot that shows their fractal symmetry? It would be great if maybe you could get some interviews too with residents or chieftains of those villages (in English or with English translation if possible) about why they chose a fractal shape for their village, does it have a particular significance to build villages this way versus any other way, how have they used symmetrical repetitive shapes in other areas of their culture, and perhaps get some footage of those examples as well.

    What I would like to do is show this to students and interweave it with my next art show which I am now planning. I have been presenting my fractals at local galleries for the last ten years and to students in their auditoriums more recently. This type of example of fractals in the real world, not just antennae in your cell phone, brings things together better.

    Is all of this too much to ask of your time? How much of this can you get into 60 second clips?


    Thanks
  • Changed 19 Jun 2011 14:28 by AllFractUp "refinement of stated purpose"
  • erichon avatar
    erichon 19 Jun 2011 17:50
    Hi

    We will stay in Africa for some more years travelling round all over Africa. As it seems to me you have never been to Africa. Sure we can get that shots you need but it takes a lot of time. You must be aware that roads here are practically not existent, you have just tracks or at best corrugated dirt roads. Traditional villages are away the main roads which makes it time consuming to get there (which we do anyway because we visit this villages as well). Interviews are a bit of a problem because nobody speaks English there, those are tribes, some friendly others rather hostile as the Mursis i.e. They do not know WHY they build villages like that, you would get more simple answers like, we do that because to protect us of wild animals, people here are more practical in a sense, and the traditional pattern has not changed over centuries.
    Kind regards
    Eric
  • AllFractUp avatar
    AllFractUp 19 Jun 2011 20:07
    Okay well you just completed the interview request :)

    Scrub that part of it. No, I have not traveled beyond America's borders. Niagara Falls doesn't count does it? Anyways how about catching clips of villages with fractal themes as you are going about your usual business then? Are you able to upload to Pond5 while in Africa?

    I just sent an email to you before reading this post. So some of what I wrote is now out. No need for interviews or risking your life naturally.
  • stockman avatar
    stockman 22 Jun 2011 04:44
    Hi, I have this
    https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/995682/massai-village-p1.html

    https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/996216/massai-village-p3.html

    https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/996216/massai-village-p3.html

    https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/996018/massai-village-p4.html
  • AllFractUp avatar
    AllFractUp 23 Jun 2011 21:25
    Is it too hard to get the fractal shapes at ground level? If so then this whole thing is a wash and not worth the effort.