Upgraded, but AE still a dog

Mizamook 8 Aug 2016 20:33
I might be missing something.

Recently upgraded my desktop machine to somewhat match the specs of my laptop.

Currently Win7 Pro64 bit, Intel i7-2600K 3.4 GHz,32GB 1600Mhz DDR RAM, 4GB Nvidia Quadro K2200 video card (upgraded from older card so I can run twin HD monitors and my new Dell 5K monitor, which I share with the laptop also), DEDICATED 100GB specified on separate SATA3 SSD for Adobe cache, etc ...

Yet it seems my ability to perform a RAM preview of a decent clip, say a full 20 seconds 4K is not possible ... while my laptop can, this machine cannot ...

What am I missing?
JHDT_Productions 8 Aug 2016 22:27
I think Adobe went a step backwards with this latest update.
I was rendering 8 minute videos using redgiant denoiser taking about an hour in Premiere.
After the upgrade its taking about 6 hours no matter what settings I change.
I just don't get it.
Mizamook 9 Aug 2016 04:32
Huh .. I didn't notice a difference between versions so much .. and only recently updated my desktop ... both are running the same version now. I thought it weird that I was able to generate a longer RAM preview with effects than without ...
danielschweinert 9 Aug 2016 09:45
I was too surprised when the rendering times quadruppled in my projects. Adobe disabled Multi-CPU support in After Effects. There was an official announcement. They said they want to redesign the whole rendering engine. Just don't understand why the disabled it without finishing the new engine first.
Mizamook 9 Aug 2016 19:12
Ah ... well that does explain some things, yes. Not that I mind slow renders -when actually outputting finals - ... during which I start another render on the other machine then keyword a few things. It's the getting to the point where I can start the final render that bugs me ... having to play files in other viewers just to get in/out trim points and such. Doing a RAM preview to proof the adjustments to Warp Stabilizer, for instance, a situation that can't be done another way, except making a low quality render, which slows me down too as I fail more than I care to admit to turn the quality back on and have to do it over anyway ...

I was just surprised at having little actual gains in performance now that I've finally gotten around to updating my machine. Still not sure why the laptop still seems better. Maybe newer CPU and architecture, being that the desktop is a 5 year old machine.
danielschweinert 11 Aug 2016 13:50
@Mizamook that also depends on which codecs you want to edit in AfterEffects. If you have footage that is highly compressed like H.264 etc. then you need more CPU power. If you work with ProRes codecs that are not that much compressed you might get away with a slower CPU. Also get a good graphics card. On Adobe products NVIDIA cards with CUDA support are still lil faster that AMDs OpenCL. I've just updated my GPU with a liquid cooled Nvidia GTX1080 and that thing is blazing fast with 4K material.
Mizamook 13 Aug 2016 00:49
Thanks Daniel ... I wonder if I can physically fit my old video card in alongside my new one (which is double the VRAM, as well as other specs, besides being newer, lighter, using less power, more CUDA cores) if I can use it just as a resource for AE ...

Might be a moot point, as it might not physically fit in my box.
danielschweinert 13 Aug 2016 10:35
Right now After Effects makes no use of multiple GPUs. DaVinci Resolve does but the GPUs have to be the same model with the same VRAM. If you use different GPU models, with obvious differences in RAM and CUDA cores etc, the slowest card will be the pace maker and the faster cards will be under utilized.
Mizamook 13 Aug 2016 19:01
I wondered about that - thanks!
vadervideo 14 Aug 2016 20:00
In the latest version (downloaded a couple of days ago, I see a very nice rendering speed increase. Of course it is always important to make sure your video GPU is recognized by the likes of AE. Even on my laptop which used to be horribly slow, it now makes me drink my vodka orange juice too fast. ;)
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