Three Weeks to reject all of my clips ....

To OP: why people should buy your black frames? Editors love their own fades not yours. Stock is mainly about delivering raw material for the editors. To be more precise: stock media is kind of spare parts for a machinery. We do not deliver machines but spare parts. Shoot, edit and upload specific actions, not stories. If you have a slide shot from inside of a train split it in parts of maximum 30s, chose the most interesting moments like(but not limited too): passing under bridges, entering a tunnel, getting out of a tunnel, a few seconds inside the tunnel, passing by an old wind mill or over a large river etc. - but nobody would expect you to upload an entire uncut shot of a train ride from New York to LA. As a photographer/videographer myself I know the temptation to keep your finger indefinitely on the record button is huge. Keep your finger on the red button as long as you like but deliver only chops, the best ones!

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Funny to see how this topic can become so long. As it seems some of you have too much time! ;)

Ionescu your analogy is great. Spare parts indeed.

I was thinking about the long clip thing. One thing I do if I have several minutes of good footage, filled with all sorts of varying details of potential usefulness, like a driving POV shot through Alaska, for instance, I divide it into nameable useful chunks of 30 seconds each, frame-accurate so they can buy/use one, two, or all of the clips, should they desire. Sold several that way, sometimes the entire sequence, although that is rare.

When I break apart a clip into 30 Second parts I give a couple seconds overlap instead of making them frame accurate. I too have sold a number of sequences this way. Never ever leave a black frame on either end. And try to always give a few seconds of run-in before the main subject shows.

well ... if you ship a spare part in a plastic wrapping, they still have to take that wrapper off to use it. I have understood, now, what is expected from P5. I searched the site for information before I uloaded my clips, there was no mention of fades in or out would cause a rejection. The fact it took 3 weeks to get rejected was more the concern. If there has been somewhere stating "fades will get your clips rejected", guess what I would not have put in the clips. Spring is coming soon, hopefully, and most of my footage will be done outside. The 1st batch of clips were more to see how the submitting process would go.

Well, Rekindle, I usually time the split to be at a non-crucial section, with the meaty bits of each clip (hopefully each one having something to make it unique) having enough lead-in and out, but unless there's a download error, having a frame-accurate split makes it easier for the buyer to stick them all end to end and use realtime, or sped up, as they prefer, without having to sync frames. I dunno.

TKboom, it will reassure you to know that the process and criteria are pretty much the same for every agency, and yes, you will learn things from each agency's texts on the matter, as well as get frustrated by how fickle some of them are. At least here at P5 we can point to a "Why"... some of them might reject you if the reviewer has indigestion, and say "Focus" or "Lighting" yet if you resubmit them again to that same agency, the luck of the draw different reviewer will accept them happily and they could sell very well. It's a funny, funny world, stock. Thick skin=vital.

The agency is the plastic wrap - not the fades.

Have a look at the related clips to this link and to see the value of black.

https://www.pond5.com/stock-footage/41924700/clouds-over-badlands.html

actually the shipping company would be the agency ... but hey ..