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If one was to graduate from the cannon HV30, which is the next prosummer video camera that shoots full HD and with a pocket friendly price? any imput?

Like a lot of threads have discussed ..Canon 2Ti and you get both video and photo. It's cheaper than the Canon HV-30 was to buy.

I'm not up on the focal length of lenses on these Canon 2 and 2T1 camera's: what sized lens would you need to get a similar zoom range to video camera's in the 12 to 20 x zoom range? Do you guys/gals use zoom lenses on these Canon camera's or fixed length?

I ask because I find I tend to use the tele end of my camcorder the most for stock footage and it is good to be able to find the right spot, setup and use the zoom to finish the composition of the shot. . . . that would be a bit harder with a fixed lens wouldn't it?

Mark

You are right a great 20x magnification such as the Canon XH-A1 with auto focus is easy and handy to use compared to a manual focus dslr.
On my 5D MKII and 7D I use a 24-70, 70-200 and 100-400 zoom lenses. I also have a 2x extender effectively converting the 400mm to 800mm. With the 400mm I can reach out pretty good. As far as comparison to what mm lens will give same at 20x zoom on video camera ... well someone here can tell us I'm sure.

24-70 is about a 3X (70/24). It is 3X from what you originally see (24mm) to the zoomed in 70mm. That being said, ~35-50mm is what the human eye 'naturally' sees, so we could base 40mm as average, so that 70mm is about a 2X. that 400 is about a 10X. The reason those cameras are 20x is that they go from 18-360 or something equivalent, so it is strange how they define the magnification amount. The hv40 is 6.1-61mm , therefore a 10x.

@bushman

If you want to venture with your subjects (very nice!) also into wildlife photography, I would get a 7D (better AF and much faster than the 5D2 or the Rebel) and probably an EF 100-400mm L lens.

If you want to keep on mainly shooting video, look for a 20x optical zoom prosumer video cam that takes you beyond 600, maybe even 700 mm focal length (full frame equivalent; the HV30 stops at 430mm). For true progressive, this would have to be at least a prosumer AVCHD model or better. But I don´t think that really matters. What matters for wildlife is that you have long recording times as the lioness won´t look "sensually" at your command :). If this says "tape" because you´re not driving around with your laptop to discharge the memory cards, buy HDV.

I can´t recommend any prosumer video camera because I am using the HV30 and 7D myself right now. But I am sure that "getting the best subjects" should determine your decision. Even the Canon HVs do not sell any less than more advanced cams of the 4-10k range, as long as you do not use them for shooting color graded orange juices... Just run a search on P5 and you´ll see.

Good luck,
Stefan

I still thousands of dollars of footage from my old Canon HV-20 each year. So if you are not stepping into something significantly better then why upgrade? I suggest either sticking with your HV-30 or make a significant upgrade. The next step up in pro-summer grade will gain very little IMHO. Only true advantage is a dslr is if you plan on using it for photos also. Subject sells much more than the camera that captures the subject. Some stock agencies don't even show what camera is used on the sales page.

I think the magnification of images with video camera's has something to to with the size of the image sensor. For example with my Sony Z7(1/3" CCD) I can take the lens off and using an adapter, attach Nikon lenses to the front. A 200mm Nikon will on this camera give a zoom factor(in camcorder terms) of about 40x to 45x . . . .this clip was shot with that lens and the ship was at least a mile off the coast

https://www.pond5.com/es/stock-footage/377168

You can also use an EX3 and Nikon lenses but because it has a 1/2" CCD, I believe you would only get about a 30x magnification factor . This has something to do with the Nikon lenses being designed for a full 35mm frame but using them with a smaller CCD increases the effective magnification. Hopefully somebody can chip in with a better explanation of why this works the way it does. I have trouble with maths!

Thank you very much,friends. I am not intending to do stlls, and if there is no significant improvement in terms of sales in true HD, then i will stick to HV30. It is smaller and packs well into my travel bag, and like stefan says, to get a proper footage of a hunt, i have to keep shooting for long periods not to miss the action. So tapes comes in handy here. The only problem i face is that the zoom is too small. I have to get close to capture a meaningful footage, and the lioness will just abandon the hunt. But this will do for now.
Thanks again for the contribution.

I think I should add that I did a mere comparison of

camera name / camera name salegt:0

for "sale greater than 0" (you could use also 1, 2 3 or course), to get a rough idea of the percentage of clips sold at least once for a given camera model, as far as their users named them consistently. What I did actually not do was looking into the sales themselves, to see if higher sales prices were achieved with more advanced cams. But I think you´re pretty fine with the HV30 for your unique shots. Doesn´t seem to turn off the clients in any way.

The only tape-based cam I came across so far and which seems to be sort of a compromise between the HV30 and prosumer HDV cams like the Sony FX1 or the Canon XH-A1 in prize (2000 USD at BH) and weight (3.6 lb / 1.6 kg), is the Sony FX7. It has a 20x zoom that goes until 748mm. But I think it has been released already in 2006 or 2007, so you should check what you would really get and what you even might loose (apart from the money :) if you replaced the HV30.

Again, good luck,
Stefan