Slow Motion

jdennis 24 Oct 2011 15:47
Hello all,

I'm pretty new here. Can anyone make a recommendation regarding slow motion video

I'm using a Sony HVR-V1U which can record @240 fps but it comes at the cost of reduced resolution definitely not suitable for upload here.

Is the slow motion effect done in software?
JHDT_Productions 24 Oct 2011 15:54
It can be done in After Effects or just about any editor. The problem is software slow motion creates extra frames on the fly which reduces the quality of the video.
I've played with Slow motion in After Effects using the Twixtor plugin. It looks pretty cool. But at the cost of quality and artifacts.

So bottom line to answer your question, for your own videos its fine.
For stock, only use a camera that can shoot slow motion.
The Canon 7D and a few others can shoot 720HD at 60fps.

Also, most sites specifically require any video uploaded as slow motion to be acquired in camera and not software.

Jake
jason 24 Oct 2011 15:55
Slow motion can be done in several software programs. Just to name a few Vegas Pro 11, Premiere Pro CS5, After Effects CS5 and Edius 6 all of these do a really good job without loss of quality.
jdennis 24 Oct 2011 16:30
Thank you.

I do have Sony Vegas Pro. Any idea if supported in version 9? I'm assuming this just involves a stretching of clip in time line or is there a separate plug-in required?
JHDT_Productions 24 Oct 2011 16:49
Yes, in Sony Vegas Pro 9 you press the control key ( I think) or the alt key. Anyway, one of the keys will let you stretch the video to add frames and make it slow motion.
Of course Sony does the worst job in the finished video.
After Effects does the best job using frame blending if you have it.

Jason, are you saying that having software add frames that don't exist does not make the finished video loose quality? Not so sure about that.
SimpleIconic 24 Oct 2011 17:37
There is a definite loss of quality using these listed softwares. Also there is an extent even in the high end softwares where it will become stop motion looking if stretched to much. Twixtor is the best at it I have ever seen, and it can only go so far also. If Twixtor is stretched to far you will see warping and weirdness. Real high end high speed cameras can cost several thousand dollars. Your best bet for low end would be something like a 7d at 60p combined with a slight further stretch with Twixtor and AE 5. Just my two cents, others may disagree.
SimpleIconic 24 Oct 2011 18:06
Also, don't stretch using two softwares. It messes everything up. For example don't use AE time stretch with Twixtor. It will bug out.
vadervideo 24 Oct 2011 23:55
In Sony Vegas from version 8 (first version I have used over the years) all the way to the current version there are really nifty ways to do get "clean" slow motion. However, you need to make sure that some of your settings are correct:
1. Under Edit->Preferences - make sure you have all the setting correct for final output. Hence, if it is originally interlaced footage say from a Sony A1U at 1440 but you want the final to be 1920i, then make sure it is set here first. Sony automatically will make the adjustments for you on the m2t footage.
2. If you take a clip and grab the end of it on the timeline while holding down your control key, it will "stretch" the clip to 400% or quarter speed. You can also additionally to that activate an "event velocity" under: Insert -> Video Envelopes -> Event Velocity - You can now take this down to say 25% speed and now have an 800% slow down. Depending on the focus or sharpness of your original clip - you can do this and get some sweet results.

I have also done it by rendering it twice or in two steps using just the "stretch" function. Either way, the result is the same, but with one more step. Pretty cool actually. The key is the very first thing - setting the project prefs! If you want to see some samples of such slo-mo stuff (most of these shots are from a Sony A1U):

HD slow motion butterdly on flower holds on during breeze Vidéos HDSequence of lightning - Monsoons 2008 Vidéos HDDriving through a flooded street VidéosSexy Brunette Wind blown hair expressions - 3 curious slow motion Vidéos HDultra Slo mo colorful drugs pills drop mid air black background Vidéos HDextreme weather super slo mo sheet lightning palm tree silhouette Vidéos HDsuper slo mo american snout butterfly takeoff fighting breeze Vidéos HDsuper slo mo cascading water sheet day light transparent loop Vidéos HDsuper slo mo butterflies western tailed-blue arrives american snout flies by Vidéos HDLoopable lightning Vidéossuper slo mo painted lady butterfly departs from flower 2 Vidéos HDsuper slo mo monarch butterfly feeds on blossom Vidéos HDSexy Brunette Commercial left half - smiling eyes - 6 - big smile Vidéos HDSuper Slo mo extreme sheet lightning 3 Vidéos HDultra slo mo multiple powerful mountain lightning at dusk Vidéos HDSuper lightning strike in slow motion - 6 - magenta streak Vidéos HDslo mo yellow and black butterfly leaves purple blossoms 2 Vidéos HDslo mo Pacific ocean rip curl waves smashing into rock 4 Vidéos HDultra slo mo super powerful bright crawler lightning across the sky 6 Vidéos HDslo mo unique lightning phenomenon multi discharge hi and lo Vidéos HDultra slow motion medium shot monarch butterfly takes to air flapping wings Vidéos HDSuper slo mo blackhawk comes out from behind trees Vidéos HDSexy long soft hair and simple green t-shirt - 1 Vidéos HDHD blackhawk flies overhead approaching Vidéos HDSuper slomo daytime microsburst powerful lightning strike 4 Vidéos HDsuper slo mo lightning flashes inside haboob sand storm Vidéos HDslomo power crawler lightning flashes with silhouettes Vidéos HDsuper slo mo cascading water sheet night light closeup transparent Vidéos HDsuper slomo sheet lightning flashes and branches 11 Vidéos HDslo mo yellow butterfly behind the greenery flies off Vidéos HDultra slo mo soft focus dramatic lightning background 2 Vidéos HDA bunch of coins drop and scatter Vidéos HDslomo snow melt and drop in foggy forest 1 Vidéos HDextreme weather super slo mo extreme day lightning strikes behind palm 3 Vidéos HDSinking the 8 ball billiards- series - 4 Vidéos HDsuper slo mo two monarch butterflys fly into scene with thunderhead backgroun Vidéos HDslo mo flashes in the sky with desert life silhouettes 3 Vidéos HDslomo subtle lightning crawlers and flashes 10 Vidéos HDHD ultra slo mo red neck hummingbird leaves his branch into backward flight Vidéos HDPre-keyed Slow motion chinese girl dancing and moving for fitness - 3 Vidéos HDextreme weather super slo mo surreal sheet lightning Vidéos HDsuper slomo water drops impact hard surface side view 2 Vidéos HDslomo lightning in the distance 3 Vidéos HDextreme weather slo mo thunderhead cloud lightning sparks 5 Vidéos HDsuper slo mo bee has hard time landing on flower Vidéos HDSuper slo mo swallow tail butterfly sitting on flower Vidéos HDslomo subtle lightning crawlers and flashes 12 Vidéos HDultra slow motion lightning strikes scientific research Vidéos HDslo mo lightning bolt strike silhouette of trees 04 1 Vidéos HDSexy Brunette Extreme CU Eyes - 4 - sincere blink slo mo Vidéos HDslo mo bugs flying around palm fern fruit 4 Vidéos HDsuper slo mo powerful lightning strike lit with cloud depth Vidéos HDUltra slow motion butterfly changes position close up Vidéos HDSlo mo colorful drugs pills drop onto glass black background Vidéos HDultra slo mo pin drop on glass white background blue head Vidéos HDVarious scenes of Asian woman having fun at swimming pool in slow motion - 2 Vidéos HDslomo subtle lightning crawlers and flashes 5 Vidéos HDHD ultra slow mo hummingbird takes off and hovers in place Vidéos HDextreme weather superslowmo powerful strike slow discharge Vidéos HDSuper Slo mo extreme sheet lightning 5 Vidéos HDextreme weather super slo mo microburst lightning strikes 3 wide shot Vidéos HDMulti-thunderbolt strikes Vidéos HDsuper slo mo yellow jacket wasp leaves blossom Vidéos HDSexy Brunette Head and shoulders - 3 - shake hair slow motion in BW Vidéos HDslo mo Pacific ocean rip curl waves smashing into rock Vidéos HDslomo subtle lightning crawlers and flashes 3 Vidéos HDslo mo moth takes off after feeding on blossom Vidéos HDUSAF Thunderbirds F-16 - delta formation overhead Vidéos HDsuper slo mo macro shot dragon fly moves head prior to take off from log Vidéos HDextreme weather tel pole silhouette lit by sheet lightning slo mo 3 Vidéos HDextreme weather super slow mo night spider sheet lightning 960fps Vidéos HDWood screws drop Vidéos HDultra slo mo pennies drop on glass white background front view  Vidéos HDSexy BrunetCommercial right half - smiling eyes - 4 - bored and eye blink slo mo Vidéos HDsuper slomo sheet lightning cloud jumper Vidéos HDCurly lightning and a double rainbow Vidéos HDextreme weather super slo mo microburst lightning strikes 5 tight shot Vidéos HDslo mo crawler final HD Vidéos HDslo mo intense ligthtning strikes 04 Vidéos HDslo mo very sporadic crawler lightning branches seek out path Vidéos HDVarious scenes of Asian woman having fun at swimming pool in slow motion - 4 Vidéos HDultra slo mo super powerful bright crawler lightning across the sky 1 Vidéos HDultra slo mo lightning strike with branching Vidéos HDsuper slo mo night time sheet lightning in the clouds Vidéos HDslo mo wide shot of moth and shadow flying between blossoms Vidéos HDHD blackhawk fly by tracking behind trees w sound Vidéos HDSuper lightning strike in slow motion - 4 - slow fizzle Vidéos HDslo mo bugs flying around palm fern fruit 3 Vidéos HDBoots and heels - 5 - posing winter boots slow motion  Vidéos HDSuper slow motion lighting arteries seeking their path for the final bolt Vidéos HDsuper slo mo powerful sunset lightning strike 4 Vidéos HDsuper slo mo bee and butterfly work the Mexican bird of paradise flowers Vidéos HDslo mo macro of yellow butterfly feeding with long tongue Vidéos HDsuper slomo vertical water jet display fountain bubbles red Vidéos HDslomo crawler lightning flashes powerful 3 Vidéos HDultra slow motion lightning strikes scientific research Vidéos HDUSAF Thunderbirds F-16 - lens flare and off into the sun Vidéos HD4K 30p southeast night sky of stars in timelapse 4k or 4k+ Resolutionslo mo power crawler lightning repeats path Vidéos HDslo mo painted lady butterfly in the sun Vidéos HD
vadervideo 25 Oct 2011 00:02
Part II of slow motion - I also have been known to use After Effects - you might want to do some experimenting with "Time Warp" as well as Layer->Time Stretch and change the speed by entering a larger percentage value (gt 100%) for slower or smaller percentage (lt 100%) value for faster. AE by default does do a wonderful job on this provided again that your imagery is sharp and clean. Also, and again, make sure you comp settings match the original footage, particularly on the frame rates!
jdennis 25 Oct 2011 00:05
I'll give that a try... thank you

I've also heard great things about "twixtor" plug in for Vegas as well.
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