Terrible quality content all over Pond5

BrancoG 17 Feb 2015 20:03
When are Pond5 reviewers going to increase their standards,i mean,i have 0 rejections and today i was listening to a lot of random music here and 30% of it is completely terrible,im not sure about footage and stuff but this is not a good thing at all,it makes the whole market look bad,competitor markets are increasing their standards and only allow best quality media,it will draw serious buyers away from here and it will soon become overcrowded if it is not already,i already have a hard time finding my own items typing exactly the same title and tags,i really like Pond5 and i have pretty steady sales for the last several months but im worried that might change in the future if more and more items keep piling here.
What do you guys think?
wideweb 17 Feb 2015 20:15
What is a terrible quality music? Is there noise or what?
BrancoG 17 Feb 2015 22:21
music that has sample loops layered together in 1 minute,technically broken music with clashing kick/bass and other instruments,over compressed music that sounds almost like white noise,too simple music made probably with band in the box and stuff like that.
BrancoG 17 Feb 2015 22:27
Im not trying to insult anyone but when producers get their tracks rejected on other markets,they just come here and upload all that stuff cause they know it wont get rejected,im not the first person to complain about this on the forum,of course there is a lot of top quality music here,but bad and generic music is clogging the search engine really bad.

I just wanted to hear other artists opinions,cause,maybe its just me having bad taste or something,i don't know.
LivingroomClassics 24 Feb 2015 14:24
i dont agree (and not cuz i have some terrible stuff too).
in my experience with rf sites, ive had a lot of tracks rejected on some sites,
which to me meant that someone actually thinks the accepted ones will sell.
obviously, the respective site's portfolio was smaller (since they really review stuff)
however this didnt reflect on sales.

i mean, if someone manually reviews your stuff, it doesnt mean you
will have better sales. yes i know, you were referring to the image of the market,
but frankly i dont care about that image, i care about my profits,
and as long as accepting everything brings me more sales, im ok with it. (and i think clients are ok with it too, since they have more stuff to choose from)

im also thinking, the more clips there are, the more a client will find something he looks for.
the less there are, the less chances he has + also more clients will use and overuse the same tracks.

pond5's model seems to me the best.
(of course, there could be improvements...)

many of times, i doubt quality even matters. what matters, i think, is the chance to get
your clips actually viewed by clients, and that comes with lots of uploads, regular uploads,
lots of tags and other "meaningless" non-music related stuff...

i used to think having someone review my stuff is some guarantee i'm more eligible for actual sales (and it does make sense, someone reviews it and give his ok so he thinks he will sell, as opposed to thinkin "whats this crap?" and rejecting it). but having seen that there's no such correlation, i really do not see the point of manually reviewing stuff. it's just a waste of time.

the only problem should be how to manage such immense databases and how to improve the search processes, but these are technical issues, it dept. and web technologies shoud deal with it, and they will, sooner or later.
LivingroomClassics 24 Feb 2015 14:34
i think it's like looking for a job. you can't forbid companies to hire people that are underprepared...and underprepared people do have jobs too...
zanyzeus 24 Feb 2015 15:42
Branco, Without me getting into too far, I want to say that you, nor I, are not qualified to make a distinction of what is "good or bad" when it comes to a buyers needs. I often look in the forum where people post clips that have recently sold. Many of those I would have rejected if I were an editor. Yet someone had a need and filled that need with that clip.
WeatherNews 24 Feb 2015 18:47
I agree with @Zanyzeus, I batch upload and template all my severe summer/winter weather stuff, car crashes, storms and storm damage and all my college and university and frosh week vis as well as some community events and sports and lot of it is complete crap and would not have been uploaded had I had the time to do each one individually yet what sells? You guessed it, many of the less than perfect shots, I'm assuming because the shot just happened to fit the project being worked on. Other agencies want perfect but that's their opinion of a perfect shot, what about our customers? I rather them decide, my less than perfect shot might just be a perfect fit for their work.
RekindlePhoto 24 Feb 2015 19:10
It's really impossible for the artist or the agency to know what will sell. Under the old P5 home page they showed "super clips" as what they thought were the finest and best. Most of them never sold. I have had footage rejected here and at other agencies and have made thousands on sales of those clips that were rejected elsewhere. Most shaky handheld clips have a very low probability to sell, some do. Blurry out of focus (not ones blurred on purpose) clips have relatively no possibility. Many of what I thought would make a fortune have never sold and many that I almost deleted have paid for a few new cameras. Of course the subject matter can be way over saturated with far too many "ducks in the pond" clips or photos and then the return is diminished. Quality is the key. Having what someone else needs and not what you want to shoot is critical. Perception of quality is very important. No one wants to by cheap quality ... pricing is an indication that the artists does not value his work and therefore "might" not be of the best quality. There are so many factors and no one including myself can give an answer that fits all occasions. Yes, indeed there is junk here and a big problem of spam. That is controllable and more measurable.
FxProSound 24 Feb 2015 19:58
First of all, the quality of previews here is terrible. A client buying from me subbass rumble or bass drop must trust me so much, that he purchases it hearing just nothing :) I had some unbelievable sales like that. I agree there's lot of stuff that is musically poor, but 2-3 curating people on whole audio site can't decide what has potential to sell, they simply have no time for that and they just correcting mistakes, technical errors, abusive things and obvious unuasable noises.
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