Slow Motion

jdennis 24 Oct 2011 15:47
Hello all,

I'm pretty new here. Can anyone make a recommendation regarding slow motion video

I'm using a Sony HVR-V1U which can record @240 fps but it comes at the cost of reduced resolution definitely not suitable for upload here.

Is the slow motion effect done in software?
JHDT_Productions 24 Oct 2011 15:54
It can be done in After Effects or just about any editor. The problem is software slow motion creates extra frames on the fly which reduces the quality of the video.
I've played with Slow motion in After Effects using the Twixtor plugin. It looks pretty cool. But at the cost of quality and artifacts.

So bottom line to answer your question, for your own videos its fine.
For stock, only use a camera that can shoot slow motion.
The Canon 7D and a few others can shoot 720HD at 60fps.

Also, most sites specifically require any video uploaded as slow motion to be acquired in camera and not software.

Jake
jason 24 Oct 2011 15:55
Slow motion can be done in several software programs. Just to name a few Vegas Pro 11, Premiere Pro CS5, After Effects CS5 and Edius 6 all of these do a really good job without loss of quality.
jdennis 24 Oct 2011 16:30
Thank you.

I do have Sony Vegas Pro. Any idea if supported in version 9? I'm assuming this just involves a stretching of clip in time line or is there a separate plug-in required?
JHDT_Productions 24 Oct 2011 16:49
Yes, in Sony Vegas Pro 9 you press the control key ( I think) or the alt key. Anyway, one of the keys will let you stretch the video to add frames and make it slow motion.
Of course Sony does the worst job in the finished video.
After Effects does the best job using frame blending if you have it.

Jason, are you saying that having software add frames that don't exist does not make the finished video loose quality? Not so sure about that.
SimpleIconic 24 Oct 2011 17:37
There is a definite loss of quality using these listed softwares. Also there is an extent even in the high end softwares where it will become stop motion looking if stretched to much. Twixtor is the best at it I have ever seen, and it can only go so far also. If Twixtor is stretched to far you will see warping and weirdness. Real high end high speed cameras can cost several thousand dollars. Your best bet for low end would be something like a 7d at 60p combined with a slight further stretch with Twixtor and AE 5. Just my two cents, others may disagree.
SimpleIconic 24 Oct 2011 18:06
Also, don't stretch using two softwares. It messes everything up. For example don't use AE time stretch with Twixtor. It will bug out.
vadervideo 24 Oct 2011 23:55
In Sony Vegas from version 8 (first version I have used over the years) all the way to the current version there are really nifty ways to do get "clean" slow motion. However, you need to make sure that some of your settings are correct:
1. Under Edit->Preferences - make sure you have all the setting correct for final output. Hence, if it is originally interlaced footage say from a Sony A1U at 1440 but you want the final to be 1920i, then make sure it is set here first. Sony automatically will make the adjustments for you on the m2t footage.
2. If you take a clip and grab the end of it on the timeline while holding down your control key, it will "stretch" the clip to 400% or quarter speed. You can also additionally to that activate an "event velocity" under: Insert -> Video Envelopes -> Event Velocity - You can now take this down to say 25% speed and now have an 800% slow down. Depending on the focus or sharpness of your original clip - you can do this and get some sweet results.

I have also done it by rendering it twice or in two steps using just the "stretch" function. Either way, the result is the same, but with one more step. Pretty cool actually. The key is the very first thing - setting the project prefs! If you want to see some samples of such slo-mo stuff (most of these shots are from a Sony A1U):

super slo mo dragonfly arrives in the water front greens Video HDextreme weather super slo mo microburst lightning strikes 9 tight shot Video HDsuper slow motion butterly takeoff and land Video HDultra slomo water drops on windshield 1 Video HDsuper slo mo sheet lightning slow starter with light flash Video HDYoung Chinese woman does pole dance exercise slow mo - pre keyed - 1 Video HDSlomo cloud sheet lightning bursts and flashes - 19 Video HDslo mo extreme inter cloud explosive bright flashes Video HDslo mo soft focus silhouette lighting strikes 03 Video HD4K UHD dash cam severe storm flooded streets waves splashing deep water slo mo  4k or 4k+ Resolutionslo mo intense ligthtning strikes 23 Video HDultra slow motion lightning strikes scientific research Video HDultra slo mo super powerful bright crawler lightning across the sky 1 Video HDslo mo painetd lady butterfly leaves blossom after feeding 2 Video HDslo mo humminbird takes off from within tree branch Video HDLong Beach Gran Prix - vintage formula cars race in slow motion - Tecate VideoSuper lightning strike in slow motion - 4 - slow fizzle Video HDslo mo lightning bolt strike silhouette of trees 03 1 Video HDDramatic sunset colored storm clouds with lightning strike slo-mo 4 Video HDslo mo lightning bolt strike silhouette of trees 02 1 Video HDultra slow motion lightning strikes scientific research through desert plants Video HDHD ultra slow mo powerful lighting stike with branches as it seeks its path Video HDslo mo multi power lightning flashes with silhouettes 2 Video HDsuper slomo dusk storm cell multiple lightning strikes Video HDslo mo intense ligthtning strikes 14 Video HDslo mo intense ligthtning strikes 20 Video HDSuper lightning strike in slow motion - 2 - super bright arc Video HDslo mo intense ligthtning strikes 24 Video HDslo mo intense ligthtning strikes 34 Video HDspectacular super slomo lighting over the city k Video HDBee pollination 24 - bee flies left to right - slow motion Video HDslo mo legs walking crosswalk night time Video HDFluffing and straighten out the hair - 5 - flip up with smile slow motion Video HDslo mo dove takeoff from roof edge Video HDSexy Brunette Extreme CU Eyes - 2 - slo mo eye blink Video HDultra slo mo powerful mountain lightning at dusk 3 Video HD4K UHD dash cam slo mo severe lightning strike urban main street intersection 4k or 4k+ Resolutionslo mo intense ligthtning strikes 22 Video HDsuper slomo spark flash boom in the sky lightning Video HD2K 24p southeast night sky of stars in timelapse Web Footageslomo powerful lightning flashes during incoming storm 1 Video HDultra slo mo pins drop on glass white background color heads Video HDSexy Brunette Wind blown hair expressions - 4 absent, then attentive  Video HDLightning strike inside the storm Video HDsuper slo mo swallowtail flies upward viewed from low angle Video HDSlo mo of extreme night lightning with traffic 1 Videosky flashes with joshua tree silhouette Video HDsuper slo mo cascading water sheet day light transparent loop Video HDsuper slo mo small monarch butterfly leaves blossom shallow DOF Video HDBoots and heels - 2 - black heels slow motion strut Video HDextreme weather super slo mo microburst lightning strikes 3 tight shot Video HDslomo subtle lightning crawlers and flashes 1 Video HDsuper slo mo american snout butterfly takes off and flies away Video HDSexy long soft hair and simple green t-shirt - 1 Video HDsuper slomo thunderhead lights up and creates power strike Video HDsuper slo mo extreme sheet lightning crawls the cloud deck  Video HDPowerful lightning in the oncoming storm Video HDsuper slomo sheet lightning flashes and branches 11 Video HDsuper slo mo bee climbs out of flower and flies away  Video HDslomo snow melt and drop in foggy forest 1 Video HDslo mo carpenter bee mating in the blossoms Video HDextreme weather Super Slo mo extreme sheet lightning 4 Video HDSinking the 8 ball billiards- series - 4 Video HDsuper slo mo lightning flashes in the clouds to powerful final strike Video HDsuper slo mo branching lightning strike in mountains day Video HDSlo mo subtle Pacific ocean waves over a west coach beach Video HDsuper slo mo powerful sunset lightning strike 5 Video HDHD ultra slo mo red neck hummingbird leaves his branch into backward flight Video HD4K 24p southeast night sky of stars in timelapse 4k or 4k+ ResolutionPre-keyed Slow motion chinese girl dancing and moving for fitness - 3 Video HDslo mo hummingbird gathering nectar 5 Video HDsuperslomo blackhawk approach cloud Video HDslo mo lightning strike and rainbow- Video HDSuper Slo mo extreme sheet lightning 2 Video HDfluffy colored feathers Video HDultra slo mo soft focus dramatic lightning background 4 Video HDultra slo mo lightning over mountains 5 Video HDLong Beach Gran Prix - vintage formula cars race in slow motion - Lugano Videoslomo silhouette joshua tree by lightning 1 Video HDextreme weather tel pole silhouette lit by sheet lightning slo mo 1 Video HDslo mo sporadic lightning crawler Video HDslo mo butterfly gets visitor of a predator cactus wren unexpectedly Video HDultra slo mo pin drop on glass white background blue head Video HDSinking the 8 ball billiards - series - 12 Video HDextreme slo mo explosive flashes and lightnign crawler Video HDextreme weather superslowmo powerful strike slow discharge Video HDslo mo crawler lightning of a weird sort Video HDsuper slomo lightning branching flashes inside sand storm night 2 Video HDComing out of the storm in slow motion Videoultra Slo mo colorful drugs pills drop onto glass black background subtle light Video HDsuper slo mo extreme lightning long shot silhouette saguaro cactus Video HDslow motion cascading sheet of water in cyan loop Video HDslo mo painetd lady butterfly leaves blossom after feeding Video HDDesert monsoon lightning storm slow motion - 4 Video HDultra slo mo pennies drop on glass white background front view  Video HDextreme weather tel pole silhouette lit by sheet lightning slo mo 2 Video HDsuper slomo thunderhead lights up and creates power strike two Video HDultra slo mo pin drop on glass black background gold head Video HD4K UHD macro shot black chinned hummingbird on branch before takeoff 4k or 4k+ ResolutionSexy Brunette Female natural life reactions 1 - 1 walk in graciously Video HD
vadervideo 25 Oct 2011 00:02
Part II of slow motion - I also have been known to use After Effects - you might want to do some experimenting with "Time Warp" as well as Layer->Time Stretch and change the speed by entering a larger percentage value (gt 100%) for slower or smaller percentage (lt 100%) value for faster. AE by default does do a wonderful job on this provided again that your imagery is sharp and clean. Also, and again, make sure you comp settings match the original footage, particularly on the frame rates!
jdennis 25 Oct 2011 00:05
I'll give that a try... thank you

I've also heard great things about "twixtor" plug in for Vegas as well.
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