Premiere CC, AE CC, PJPEG Render Gamma issue?

BunFest 11 Aug 2014 07:18
I have no issue with any CC products, I am using Ae CS6.
I can't comment on this. Luckily..
stefhoffer 11 Aug 2014 08:07
I noticed it right away in the greens (as I was filming plant leaves). That's where it's most apparent. Other colors are more subtle but still differ from the original. It's simply a difference between the original imported file and the exported Photo JPEG file.

Here's a thread I started at the forums of https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1543015

If you download both photos and open them in a viewer, then switch back and forth between them, you will notice the difference. To me, it's too substantial to just leave it. Especially if I'm about to pay for a one year subscription.
Videostock50 11 Aug 2014 08:12
I see what you mean from your youtube video. Quite a bit of difference.
I doubt this is the problem but have you tried:
"sequence>render entire work area" To make sure PP has "applied" everything and is showing you what it will look like before full render.

Bit of a long shot.
stefhoffer 11 Aug 2014 17:06
Thank you for the suggestion. Any input is appreciated, no matter how long of a shot it may be. I did render my files, and unfortunately it doesn't make a difference.

Still wondering whether to go the Adobe road. Their forums haven't proven that helpful yet. In fact, one of the 'forum moderators' decided to change the status of my post to 'Assumed answered', without a single reply. Curious.
Mizamook 11 Aug 2014 18:41
Paul, remember the render is fine (with or without FX) rendering to a different codec.

I'm going to have to accost Adobe.
Mizamook 11 Aug 2014 19:37
I can't do it now, as I've got other engagements, but if I don't get some serious response from people using CC, i'm going to throw a fit.

Try this: Make a new solid layer. Try green, but you can try ANY OTHER COLOR as well.

Make your comp about a second long.

Render your simple color to a file using PJPEG.

IMPORT that file into your session. underneath the original solid color.

Move the original color over to one side or the other.

What do you see? Now try another color.

Are we having fun yet?

Now try the same thing using h.264 I just did. There is no apparent tonal or luma difference (there should not be)

I'll render out a clip so you can see this after I get back.
Mizamook 12 Aug 2014 02:49
OK, this one is really hard to misunderstand. I think. Anyone else here using AE or Premiere CC?

Yeah, I know this is really exciting but

WATCH THIS (30 seconds)
SlimmPickens 12 Aug 2014 03:11
Relaxing, nice work.
Mizamook 12 Aug 2014 03:14
Thanks. You just witnessed my zenith as an artist.
markoconnell 12 Aug 2014 03:51
I appreciate your desire for excellence and all but I’m not really sure that obsessing over minor color shifts is a good use of your time. The old joke about NTSC (National Television Standards Committee) was that it stood for Never The Same Color. Every monitor out there is going to have its own unique take on color. Likewise playback apps like QT are gonna have their own interpretations of gamma/color. Mac and Windows have historically been miles apart on gamma. And I suspect that human beings vary dramatically in their perception of light and color. There is no absolute standard that you can appeal to on this. No matter what you do, there will be no true consistency. Sorry.