Mark II with Premiere CS3

Why not just export it to an FLV and get 15FPS? :) > (as I pour more gasoline on this topic..) I am so evil. - Mark, the reason these indi guys like 24 fps is because they still believe that's what makes it "feel" like it was shot on real film. Forget about the fact of the lenses and DOF and - the chocolate syrup to make blood in black and white (old Hitchcock method for Psycho).. Perhaps you should bring them some chocolate syrup and make them some hot coco? But your statement about "However when the camera is at a fixed frame rate such modifications will change how the "speed" or at least how the speed looks to us. Its like the movie Back to the future, you have to think 4th dimensionally. :)" only applies if there is a time modification (lapse or slo-mo) - but I can take the same clip at let's say 20 seconds at 30 p, and play it back at 15p and lo and behold... we have Youtube. No difference to the eye, just file size and streaming efficiency. So, your statement is incorrect in that reference. No matter what 28 fps, 30 fps, or 24 fps does not change the length of a second, minute or hour, just how many frames are presented in any given time clip.

O ...what I mean is when 60fps interpreted as 30fps it makes it look like time has slowed down as in slow motion. In after effects it plays slow.

12 fps interpreted as 30 looks like that old timey hyper fast motion.

youtube dumps half the frames.

This is 60frames per second interpreted into 30, no time remaping.
https://www.pond5.com/it/stock-footage/330124

Yes, this is time remapping! You are taking something that was shot at 60p and running it out at 30p. By definition this is called slow motion! It is literally half speed. This is the same principle that is used with ultra high speed cameras that capture in the thousands of frames per second and brought to a regular frame rate to really slow things down. Otherwise a camera of that sort would serve no purpose as it would show the original result (real time) if played back at its native frame rate. Totally a different topic altogether.

The topic here is about native modes vs. 1 sec. If a camera shoots native at 30p, then it takes 30 frames to equal 1 second, if you shoot 60p, then it's 60 frames equals 1 second. If a camera shoots at 29.97, then it takes 29.97 frames (or 59.94 interlaced) to make 1 second. - the topic here is covered well http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate

Well in AE time remapping is defined as something else, you right click on the footage and do the time remapping thing and you can stretch or shorten video regardless of the frame rate, so I guess its 'unnatural' time remapping.

When you right click on footage and interpret it as another frame rate it doesnt call it time remapping. It just called "interpretation"

I'm gonna remap you guys.

I am exporting at 30fps now... seems like that is what the cool kids do these day :-P

Keep trying Scott ... sooner or later they will figure out you are only talking about 5D MKII capture and Premier Pro CS3 processing LOL

Help!

I am trying to create a FULL HD project in Premiere CS3 and I am not getting anything beyond 1440 x1080. Where do I find the presets for larger projects?

Thats what im saying though Don, I don't like premiere at all because it tries to force the way the video plays.

If he uses Premiere to do 29.97 its going to do weird frame blending because its going to try to preserve the "normal" duration of the clip.

Not in CS4 - it gives you full control of the project on both in and output. But I suppose that is redundant information at this point. :)