ProRes 422

alex2you 14 Sep 2021 08:27
My camera record in RAW.
How popular buyer request for footage in ProRes 422?
For contributor it more complicated.
1. Need more space in Hard Drive
2. Long time for processing.
3. Need up grade hard wear
4. Not all stocks accept footage in ProRes 422.

Question about quality and quantity.
ODesigns 19 Sep 2021 12:34
Good content always always trumps resolution, frame rate, and codec.
RekindlePhoto 2 Nov 2021 07:41
OD is right. If I shoot with Canon R5 or 5D MK IV I try to preserve the bit rate which is higher. If I shoot with a GoPro or drone I also preserve the bit rate which is closer to 100Mps. All agencies accept ProRes 422 HQ. So with high quality I use ProRes for drone stuff I use h264. I believe OD uses H264 for just about everything and does great. Also with slow bandwidth h264 is a life saver.
WyrostokCreative 3 Nov 2021 22:53
Ultimately think of the level of buyer you're targeting -- if it's lower end, stick with H264, if it's higher end make sure you go with a professional format like ProRes.

Delivering in ProRes 422 means a quality original clip that can withstand grading and ultimately the recompression that happens with rendering and delivering a final product, without breaking down. H.264 or other more compressed formats can be hard for buyers to work with technically.
JHDT_Productions 3 Nov 2021 22:59
The problem with that idea is we as the submitters don’t target anyone. Buyers come here and search for a subject to buy. They see something and if the price is right and it fits what they want they buy it.
People in general don’t look at frame rate or codec when they buy a video so do whatever is in your workflow.
My workflow for years has been prores no matter what camera I used to shoot the video.
Hard drives are cheap.
ODesigns 5 Nov 2021 12:06
And now my phone shoots Prores....
JHDT_Productions 5 Nov 2021 12:50
I'm waiting for a phone that shoots prores and has a full frame sensor.
NewsMarket 5 Nov 2021 16:59
I agree that uploading in Prores422 would be the ideal format if possible because we have no idea who the client is, they might actually be old school and not look at anything that isn't in a "professional format" just like some won't look at cheap prices so we don't want to lose those clients but like @JHD productions and Odesigns mention it's usually more about the content and I think it's definitely going that way for everything these days.

Does quality even matter that much anymore?, cell phone video is now being used everywhere and if the end user is going to be posting the video on YouTube or other social media they don't need high end formats but we don't know of course what their use will be.

One thing I do wonder about is the Prores file sizes and bit rates and how that affects sales to clients who don't have ultra high speed internet or very fast hard drives, would they pass up on a Prores clip and take a smaller H:264 of something similar?

Sometimes the natural instinct is to shoot at the highest specs your camera can do, 60fps for example and render in Prores but a lot of smaller businesses use older and slower computers with older graphics cards and many are still using Windows XP.

Of course we want to cater to everyone and hopefully make sales to everyone.
JHDT_Productions 6 Nov 2021 01:54
Prores videos are much easier to edit than h264
Most of the time I record to an atomos recorder in prores so I can edit easier.
If we editing a commercial job I’ll transcode any h264 footage to prores just to make it faster.
And I have a really fast machine with great video card.

In the years that I’ve been uploading prores, I haven’t had any problems with sales.

If anyone is still using Windows XP, they don’t do much editing.