Prores 4:2:2 versus PJPEG

Second method would propably not yield better results,and certainly overkill.
Just dont totally rape (pardon me) your 8-bit footage during grading,and converting after that as a fnal step would be ok.

Sebolla how can you be so sure that our work goes mainly for the web?I suspect that it might be news and corparate stuff (ok, these are web indeed) and documentaries, but stuff mainly for broadcast and public exhibition.

That still doesn't mean that web stuff start out as heavily compressed and blocky footage.

Right- it's best not to push too hard at the 8-bit footage, but on the clips that are worth it, having it in 10-bit seems to make further pushing and pulling at the look more lenient. There are times it doesn't matter at all - being that what I can or want to do with the clip is possible without going to 10 bit (or impossible despite being so)

That said, and with all that, not all clips get this treatment - depends on the material. If I want stuff to look like Nat Geo, then by all means. I try. Sometimes I get close. Sometimes I botch it. Always still trying. For its own sake, mostly, sales or not.

GCrook:
Sebolla how can you be so sure that our work goes mainly for the web?I suspect that it might be news and corparate stuff (ok, these are web indeed) and documentaries, but stuff mainly for broadcast and public exhibition.

That still doesn't mean that web stuff start out as heavily compressed and blocky footage.

I'm not sure,i'm just guessing...:)..since i watch a lot of tv and youtube as well,i see a ton of stock on youtube and few on television...
When you say that youtube stuff doesn't start blocky or heavy compressed i'm totally with you, infact i carefully check every footage that i deliver and i'm trying to get the best quality i can...what i want to say is that pjpeg is not a crappy codec and In my experience most of the time does is job...things change when you could have banding where a 10bit prores can help...

And when it all comes down to it, look at the specs of the $1800 clip sold - yep, it's PJPEG!

There you go.

It looks like this "$1800 clip" was filmed by a special high speed camera for a special customer.

Propably phantom camera.Way too much information for pjpeg to not screw it up ;)

My daughters $1,500 sale was also JPEG. So in reality it's the subject and quality of video ... the codex is really a small factor.

Don,

Your daughter's customer are not tech people, whatever codes you gave them (even h264 mp4) will do the job. They are happy just to see their cute baby's face. ;D

a lot of our buyers are probably not tech people, but prores is fine for them too. The file size isn't that much larger than PJPG honestly for Prores HQ. I'm already dealing with giant 4k crap... so I just make it work with my workflow and know that I'm providing a very high quality product to my buyer. Time to encode is the same also, so there isn't that much difference. PJPG is old...

Agree Scott.

I had a medical visit at a University hospital today. I took my laptop and signed in to the visitor wifi. AMAZING!!! I was able to upload a bunch of big 4K files super fast. Files that would have taken me over 3 hours each took 11 minutes. Dang I need to move closer to that University ;)