Sony NEX FS700 - 4k

Mizamook, Do you like the Canon 100-400L?
I was actually thinking of getting that lens, or the 70-200 IS

Hey Jake, I have both the 100-400L and the 70-200 F2.8 IS L lenses. The 70-200 is on my 5D MK III 75% of the time. For wildlife or sports during day the 100-400 can reach out and touch the subject; especially on the 7D. For wide angle I like my 17-40 L. All three are very sharp and I've had no second thoughts on why I bought them. Very happy with all three. I very seldom use the IS feature, only good on hand held low light photos. With the MK II and III I just increase ISO and no need for IS. Some people still leave IS on for video or tripod shooting ... not sure they understand what IS is for ;).

Cool, thanks Don

I think people leave IS on accidentally ;-)

Like Don said, watch that IS! Forget it's on and you'll be sorry. To really screw up your eye, change the aperture with the IS on....yikes, that's just weird. But it does help a little with boat stuff...at least the rolling is smoothed out rather than the sharp jerks.

I plan to get the 70-200 as well. It is supposed to be optically superior to the 100-400.

I love our two lenses (the 100-400 L and the EF 24-70mm L USM f2.8, but that one is mainly Michele's. Adding the 70-200 or the 70-300 (probably the latter) will make for a lot more options, especially since we share. At least I get additional magnification with the 1.6x crop.

Heard some good results from people using the extender on the 100-400 for REALLY pulling in the beady eyes of varmints (with the crop factor of the fs700, it's currently equivalent to 640mm max)

Here's a tool I found MOST USEFUL..... spend some time with this. This allows you to compare lenses against actual shoots at various focal lengths and apertures...make sure to mess with all options!!! I used the Canon 50mm f1.8 prime as a benchmark (at f8)
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=101&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=2&API=0&LensComp=121&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=3

The stills people tend to dump on the extenders, but they're working at much higher resolutions. I did some tests with the 100-400L and the 1.4X extender on the 7D and thought it was more then acceptable at video resolution. Better have a steady tripod available though.

Miz

"One thing I'm finding is that Neat Video doesn't like the noise I generate from pushing the gain too much with this S&Q motion aurora timelapse. It's too different frame to frame"

I'd think you should be doing that with a dslr and maybe using longer exposure times?

"Tell me I'm wrong if I am in this...I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the 4K function/recorder option will be affordable, and that it doesn't introduce a whole new batch of issues when it comes. "

OK. You're wrong.

The extender is a long ways off...and yes, I know, but if it was that or a proper 600mm glass cannon, I'd be more likely able to use the extender if I had to ....thanks for the info on your tests with the 7d. I'd probably stick with the 1.4x rather than lose two full stops with the 2x.

Well for what it's worth, Neat had a lot easier time last night - the aurora was so much brighter, and it made a HUGE difference. Neat's profile and settings were in the normal range, and the noise level is well within acceptable.

Remember that I am not trying to compete with DSLR/long exposure.....my goal is to attain a reproduction of real-time aurora if possible. Plus I noticed (and here's where it gets interesting) - raising the gain resulted in LESS apparent noise than lowering it. So instead of trying to skimp by at 12db, f2.8, 1fps, shutter speed 1 or 2, I'm shooting at 15db (not sure of the ISO equivalent) and using the S&Q function of 1fps over 60p, and then actually slowing it down, it begins to replicate the real deal. Note that I am still pulling more light out of the sky than is apparent to the naked (darkness adjusted) eye.

This one's the best so far -


And this one is an example of getting close to the real-time - something not possible with a DSLR: (the clouds were fast anyway - watch the bright stars in relation to the P5 logo)



And yes, these displays were awesome, but not as bright as I know they will be - and I want to be ready for it. If they get brighter, I can start to raise the frame rate a little....I love the way the movement is liquid, stately, and smooth in real life. It just doesn't come across properly as a time lapse.

I'm looking into the possibility of faster/wider lenses right now. So far I have only found one or the other....might just go with the wider (Sony E-mount 16mm with wide adapter) since I can't find faster and wider - suggestions welcome.

Quote:
""Tell me I'm wrong if I am in this...I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the 4K function/recorder option will be affordable, and that it doesn't introduce a whole new batch of issues when it comes. "

"OK. You're wrong.""

Yeah, I figured....

I think the 4k upgrade is under $1,000... BUT you have to purchase a 4k recorder. cheapest is like 2500