H1 zooms set up on T2i.
JackJack
15 Sep 2010 17:42
Hi,
Can anyone help me out on the best way to rig up a Zoom H1 to the Canon T2i?
Do you mount on the camera or do you have a camera bracket that you attach it to?
I aim to shoot travel scenics etc...
Or would it be more convenient to attach an Azden mic on camera. To be honest I am not too eager to have to sync audio all the time with footage. What would you advise.
Thanks for your help.
Can anyone help me out on the best way to rig up a Zoom H1 to the Canon T2i?
Do you mount on the camera or do you have a camera bracket that you attach it to?
I aim to shoot travel scenics etc...
Or would it be more convenient to attach an Azden mic on camera. To be honest I am not too eager to have to sync audio all the time with footage. What would you advise.
Thanks for your help.
JackJack
15 Sep 2010 17:47
How are people coping with wind? Do the fluffy jackets work?
vadervideo
15 Sep 2010 19:39
I don't really worry about sound as it mostly the case that buyers dump sound anyway. I emphasize "most". In cases where the sound is a crucial component to the clip, I rig up external mics (shotguns etc.. ) depending on the environment, room or area being worked in. If it is heavy winds, you are basically fighting a dragon so to speak. Dead cats (those fluffy jackets) work well but are not perfect by any means. Also, again, the microphone type comes into play. I use digital recorders (Tascam and Zooms from other guys as a backup) if doing true productions for commercial or film work. We use a slate (clap board) to mark the clap or simply clap our hands to get a marker on the sound tracks. This then gets aligned in post. Of course using TC (time code) devices would help the cause ideally. But most of the equipment we use doesn't facilitate that function.
JHDT_Productions
15 Sep 2010 19:49
As Andy said, don't worry about recording sound for stock. Of all the stock videos I've seen used in a web or television commercials all had some voice over or music incorporated into it.
Also for your travel video, what would you record that would enhance the video? Birds chirping, water? All of that could be foley sounds added in post and you won't have to worry about a dog barking or car passing etc.
Andy, I use slates too sometimes, also a slate app for my Iphone for my work outside of stock but have you tried Pluraleyes? That is fantastic how it syncs the sound from camera and an external audio source without the use of clappers.
Jake
Also for your travel video, what would you record that would enhance the video? Birds chirping, water? All of that could be foley sounds added in post and you won't have to worry about a dog barking or car passing etc.
Andy, I use slates too sometimes, also a slate app for my Iphone for my work outside of stock but have you tried Pluraleyes? That is fantastic how it syncs the sound from camera and an external audio source without the use of clappers.
Jake
PostquisDesign
15 Sep 2010 19:57
If the wind is bad and you MUST record it.... then you might be looking at rigging a 'blimp' or also known as a 'zeppelin' on your shotgun mic.... this set-up would most likely necessitate a boom pole rigged on a C-Stand if you are working by yourself.
Why don't you search the term.... 'double system sound' .... and see what you find.... ( for working with an external sound recorder along with your camera's mic)
As you can see by vader's description above, there is no 'quick and cheap' solution when it comes to recording quality sound under extreme situations.... that's why 'Sound Engineers" can make a living at it.... when it is a MUST HAVE.
Why don't you search the term.... 'double system sound' .... and see what you find.... ( for working with an external sound recorder along with your camera's mic)
As you can see by vader's description above, there is no 'quick and cheap' solution when it comes to recording quality sound under extreme situations.... that's why 'Sound Engineers" can make a living at it.... when it is a MUST HAVE.
JackJack
15 Sep 2010 20:25
Thanks for the replies this is really useful. I guess I am worrying too much about sound when I dont need to. I think I will just get an Azden for occasional use.
Cheers.
Cheers.
DogPhonics
15 Sep 2010 23:48
I concur about the sound, but you DONT want to find yourself without the ability to record sound, as it is sometimes critical to the content of the shot. Factory scenes, things that make noise, rustle of leaves, splashing water. These also help a shot sell. I have a tiny Sennheiser MKE400 I just keep with my "opportunity cam". While not a professional mic by any means, it beats the camera mic on the HD30 and the T2i. It can have various wind covers.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534023-REG/Sennheiser_MKE_400_MKE_400_Compact_Video.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534023-REG/Sennheiser_MKE_400_MKE_400_Compact_Video.html
dnavarrojr
16 Sep 2010 23:27
I have started doing projects besides shooting stock (I shot a couple of indie short films and I'm now shooting a regular TV show) with my T2i and I need audio for that. So I just ordered an H1.
I bought a Sima L-bracket for external flashes, it adds two cold shoes to the scenario:
http://cheesycam.com/sima-double-l-bracket-upgrade/
I plan to mount the H1 to the camera hot shoe. My LCD monitor to the top cold shoe on the bracket and my LED light to the vertical cold shoe. The Shotgun mic is used on a boom pole, so that connects directly to the MIC input on the H1. I'll use a small 8-inch cable from the headphone out on the H1 to the MIC input on the camera. That is SOLELY for making it easier to sync audio in post. I'll use the actual recorded audio on the H1, not the audio recorded on camera through the H1 because the T2i still has AGC issues.
The guy editing the show uses the latest Sony Vegas release which has an auto audio-sync function built-in.
My mother is a seamstress, so I'm gonna pick up $7 worth of faux-fur at a fabric store and have her make me a dead-kitten for the H1 instead of paying $40 for one...
I bought a Sima L-bracket for external flashes, it adds two cold shoes to the scenario:
http://cheesycam.com/sima-double-l-bracket-upgrade/
I plan to mount the H1 to the camera hot shoe. My LCD monitor to the top cold shoe on the bracket and my LED light to the vertical cold shoe. The Shotgun mic is used on a boom pole, so that connects directly to the MIC input on the H1. I'll use a small 8-inch cable from the headphone out on the H1 to the MIC input on the camera. That is SOLELY for making it easier to sync audio in post. I'll use the actual recorded audio on the H1, not the audio recorded on camera through the H1 because the T2i still has AGC issues.
The guy editing the show uses the latest Sony Vegas release which has an auto audio-sync function built-in.
My mother is a seamstress, so I'm gonna pick up $7 worth of faux-fur at a fabric store and have her make me a dead-kitten for the H1 instead of paying $40 for one...
JackJack
18 Sep 2010 12:24
Hi dnavarrojr thanks for your reply. That Sima bracket was exactly what I was looking for. Something to place the H1 on or do place my other camera. At night it will be very useful when shooting skyscapes. I have ordered one off ebay along with a load of other stuff cheesycam has recommended. I sure have saved alot of money following his tips.
I saw a DIY deadcat movie on youtube recently. I will post you if I find it again.
Cheers.
I saw a DIY deadcat movie on youtube recently. I will post you if I find it again.
Cheers.