4K Chat

RekindlePhoto 25 Nov 2013 03:43
My guess is you can buy a gray market non-USA version in HK for less than we can. Yes try it out and give us a report. Hope CNN paid for your EX1.
cinecameratv 25 Nov 2013 13:07
I still think that BMCC with it's global shutter and bigger sensor is the better choice, specially for those guys that already have canon lenses. IMO
TheEngineer 25 Nov 2013 13:18
Though long and hard about the BMCC, and I do have some Canon lenses but I want something that I can "run and gun" with and I tend to want to do as little in post as possible!
RekindlePhoto 25 Nov 2013 16:22
Agree with TE. I believe BMC will actually drop their prices to their 4K significantly to try to keep the stampede away from them. Now there is Sony competition at a reasonable price that are long term trusted camera manufacturers using a technology that is proven I believe BMC will not fail but will be hurt. If they would have brought it out this last year they would have done very good. I believe most shooters will also want the run and gun camera. At less than $6,000 it fits nicely in the upper home use for millions of people. BMC just took too long to get their system to work and I think they know it.
markoconnell 27 Nov 2013 22:11
The Z100 is available now.
SimpleIconic 27 Nov 2013 23:39
For myself, I prefer the compatibility to my EF lenses though. I am still waiting for reviews on the BMCC4k.
Mizamook 28 Nov 2013 00:14
Global shutter is a big deal though. So any people have become trained by exposure to accept the funky problems associated with rolling shutter. This is not a good thing. This is actually one major factor that has me second-guessing myself when it comes to spending the dough for the F@700 upgrade - unless I missed something somewhere, it will still be a rolling shutter readout, and that, in 4K, will not be cool. While there are workarounds, sometimes they are impossible, and the flaws of any rolling shutter system are never pretty. And if you're bothering with 4K, you care about pretty, right?
SimpleIconic 28 Nov 2013 00:48
Word. I loved the fs700 but when the upgrade was finally released and turned out to cost more than the camera, I jumped ship and sold it. The only thing that worries me about the bm 4k is that it is UHD, and not 4096 by 2160, and we don't know what the final 'standard' will be yet.
markoconnell 28 Nov 2013 04:03
I think that rolling shutter is way overemphasized. There are lots of other considerations that are just as important but never mentioned. Anyway, I ordered the Z100 not because it will be terribly cinematic but because for certain subjects it will be definitively better then anything else out there.
Mizamook 28 Nov 2013 06:03
Really? Like what? How about compression artifacts? But those are mentioned. Recently RS was exhibiting itself to me as warped mountains past which a lovely eagle in nice light, in focus for once, was flying. So nice to see mountains bend, then, as the eagle turned, and the tracking pan slowed and became diagonal, the mountains skewed in a different manner. Same settings, different angles/speed of tracking, no problem (except that the focus was off). It's a problem. Try lightning or the flash of headlights, not to mention a flash in a dark room. How about jello due to vibration? I see it often. Even in clips that sell, so I guess, who cares, right? Sorry, it's a sore point of mine. I'd hate to see 4K jello, banding, or skew.

I'd still be pretty interested in a 4K Sony.... but I'd hate to have paid another $4K on top of the $8K to get 4K and find the issues are worse. But I have time since I'm not rushing out to spend that dough now!
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