D-Log or grated footage
iam888
4 Dec 2022 11:59
Hi everyone,
I recently started uploading aerial footage and I am curious if its better to uploaded graded footage by me or if it isn't better to upload a D-Log as it can be edited to clients needs.
What are your thoughts?
Thank you,
Jan
I recently started uploading aerial footage and I am curious if its better to uploaded graded footage by me or if it isn't better to upload a D-Log as it can be edited to clients needs.
What are your thoughts?
Thank you,
Jan
RekindlePhoto
5 Dec 2022 18:15
YA have to make it look attractive but definitely not over processed. Leave room for the end user to make final adjustments. If it's flat RAW or LOG buyers will not keep their eye on it long enough to want it.
Your example item # 219249055 is too flat to attract attention. Some end users don't have capability to make basic adjustments. Give it a little pop, contrast and sharpness without going over board.
Your example item # 219249055 is too flat to attract attention. Some end users don't have capability to make basic adjustments. Give it a little pop, contrast and sharpness without going over board.
stevedonaldson
7 Dec 2022 13:07
I agree with RekindlePhoto. The best way to judge this, I believe, is to type in a particular footage topic (say "wind" and "turbines") and then sort by Popular (which presumably will correspond to sales). All are very dramatic colors appropriate to the scene. No flat log files that I have seen. But it would be interesting to hear from someone that has published both versions, and see which has the better sales (I have not done this).
GeneralTitles
13 Jan 2023 07:13
As I mentioned in this thread https://www.pond5.com/community?thread=129802444 as a customer of stock I prefer ungraded camera originals. If you do grade it, then upload in prores 12 bit.
RekindlePhoto
14 Jan 2023 03:06
I upload everything in HQ ProRes. But there are indications that what P5 sells especially in downsized 4K to HD is h264 low bit rate. Hope I'm wrong but P5 is kinda silent on this question.
bnauralexperiencesfx
17 Jan 2023 09:17
Hello,
this is an interesting thread. As a contributor I have often asked myself this question, whether to upload produced post files or leave them in "raw" c-log or d-log 10 bit. According to reasoning, unedited videos, for example also in prores format, should be the best choice for an editor who will then have to adapt the clip to his work, since he is free to apply his own lut to make it similar to other video clips he has, or make changes to the shadows and highlights from an original video. An already edited clip in non-10-bit h264 or h265 format can be modified but certainly the same modification risks worsening the quality of the video. So, personally as an editor I would like to spend that 50, 70 or 150 dollars for a raw clip and be able to make all the changes I want without degrading the quality of the final video. It is logical that a video clip uploaded in c-log or d-log will not look as "attractive" as if the same clip is post-produced by increasing saturation, contrast, etc., but surely the final result is much better. Personally I upload raw c-log or d-log files in prores 10 bit, the only change that I make is to apply a little bit of sharpeness and I remove the noise grain if there's
this is an interesting thread. As a contributor I have often asked myself this question, whether to upload produced post files or leave them in "raw" c-log or d-log 10 bit. According to reasoning, unedited videos, for example also in prores format, should be the best choice for an editor who will then have to adapt the clip to his work, since he is free to apply his own lut to make it similar to other video clips he has, or make changes to the shadows and highlights from an original video. An already edited clip in non-10-bit h264 or h265 format can be modified but certainly the same modification risks worsening the quality of the video. So, personally as an editor I would like to spend that 50, 70 or 150 dollars for a raw clip and be able to make all the changes I want without degrading the quality of the final video. It is logical that a video clip uploaded in c-log or d-log will not look as "attractive" as if the same clip is post-produced by increasing saturation, contrast, etc., but surely the final result is much better. Personally I upload raw c-log or d-log files in prores 10 bit, the only change that I make is to apply a little bit of sharpeness and I remove the noise grain if there's
cinecameratv
25 Jan 2023 16:42
About 5 years ago, somebody wrote that buyers prefer to have a file that they can perform minimum changes and color correction. If that is still true in 2023, I do not know. If you look at best selling items .... they all look color graded. (https://contributor.pond5.com/data-trends/footage/)