60fps or 30fps what has the best sale potential.

Hi.
Im quite new to video and I have always figured that 60fps would be better than 30fps or 24fps because then the buyer can choose weather he/she wants to use it at 60 fps or any other lowar fps.
This without a quality drop since if you need 30fps you can just drop it to 30fps by dropping 50% of the frames.

But after reading another discussion about 30, 25 or 24fps usage I start to wonder if my assumtions are wrong?

Any input in the question?

The right frame rate is what the buyer wants. The better question is, what does the buyer want? Since we don't shoot for a specific client/buyer in mind, you can't really answer the question.

The new file details pages don't even show the clip's framerate anymore. So, that only reinforces my theory that the only thing that matters when a buyer decides on what clips to get is the CONTENT. Not the bitrate, not the codec, not the camera type, and certainly not the framerate.

So, shoot what you want and don't lose any sleep over it.

Shooting at 24 fps gives more motion blur for that cinema look while 30 fps as some motion blur it is a bit sharper, shooting at 60 fps is the sharpest of all it little or no motion blur. By reducing the frame of 60 fps to 30fps or 24 fps you are creating slow motion. Now some like to shoot at 120fps or more to have a choice of how slow the motion will be but of course slow motion can be created in post as well.

With today's editing software and rendering engines it has pretty much become irrelevant as just about everything can easily be converted to what ever needs are required for final output.

The desired motion blur is a factor to take into consideration I guess.
At 60fps we generally want to use about 1/120 in shutterspeed giving a certain motion blur and if I use 30fps I want 1/60 witch gives more motion blur.

I a buyer wants 30fps and use a clip with 60fps and drops it to 30fps it will still use frames taken with a 1/120 shutterspeed. This is ofcourse not the optimal motion blur for that framerate.

I think I will reconsider my previous assumtion that 60fps always is the best choice and think more about how the clips will be used.

Can one use 60fps and a 1/60 or 1/80 shutterspeed to get a bit more motionblur to better match 30fps usage? But then it probably wont look as good if you would want to use it in 60fps.

Perhaps if I know I want to play it back in slow motion it would be a good idea to shot in 60fps and 1/80 shutterspeed to match the motion blur with the 30fps slow motion playback?

Regardless of frame rate, higher frames per second = more detail, better for slow motion or motion tracking.

The motion blur imparted with 1/80 at 60fps is sno small you may or may not be able to detect whether it is better or not as good as 1/120 at 60fps.

The impact on sales will be more likely not from you supplying the footage at the frame rates and shutter speeds of which you speak, but from YOU doing work like making slow motion, speed ramping, and motion tracking to create new, invigorating subjects, as well as, of course, the subjects you choose to portray.

All the tech stuff is gravy. If they (Our Esteemed Buyers) don't like your choices, but they have only your clip to love, then they will MAKE it work. As Vader said, basically.

Sometimes it's more complicated than you might think, however, say, trying to match a 24p cadence with 30p footage, for instance - if done right, according to the sensitive persons with trained eyes, it's not easy, or simple. But until you truly understand it, don't let it stop you from shooting awesome footage.

If you must, consider the type of footage you are shooting - what is it likely to be used for? A jaw dropping eye burning high frame rate ad or a slow dreamy cinematic montage? ... and shoot with a frame rate that reflects the content better. It is as much a part of your product as your choice of framing, in some cases.

Almost always easier to simulate a lower frame rate than a higher one. Motion blur can be added, but it's darn hard to remove.

Thanks for your imput Mizamook, indeed well put.

I will continue to use 60fps unless I feel the subject does better in 30fps wich ofcourse will be the hard part do decide.

Thank you all for your input.

Another thing to consider are the conditions. In a lowlight situation, a pop concert or whatever i wouldn't shoot 60fps, but 25fps, or 30fps depending on the region your in. Some incredible input from the big boys on here, this is my 50 cents, and i'm the little boy with lots to learn.