the deal with ascap

LivingroomClassics 13 Oct 2012 19:31
hi.

say i make an audio clip and register it with ascap (or similar) and then post it on pond5. say discovery purchases the clip for a documentary.
say the documentary gets a lot of tv exposure.
how does ascap (or similar) manage this situation? do i get paid each time the documentary is aired? if not, then why register it with ascap in the first place?
is there any way for me to get payed every time the documentary aires, if i post my clip on pond5? or should i not post it here in the first place?
the same if my clip goes say in a movie...imagine having ur clip in a movie that aires again and again and that gathers millions in cinemas, and you sold the clip for just 20 bucks. i mean its suicidal.
what is normal in these situation? just to accept that u made an error posting here instead of trying to sell it yourself?
just curious. im sure it happened to many that were bought for documentaries...
dapoopta 13 Oct 2012 20:06
this is Royalty free... so you won't get anything per airing.
RekindlePhoto 13 Oct 2012 20:23
ASCAP just helps protect your commercial work from being played free. For a restaurant or bar to use a radio or TV they should be paying an annual ASCAP fee or they will be actively pursued by ASCAP legally. If you want a residual income then you need to sell as Royalty Managed / Licensed and not RF. Try companies like Alamy who sell RM footage at a very high price. They license it for a specific use and time frame. Anything outside of that usage is copyright infringement. CURRENTLY here at P5 everything is RF or Royalty Free ... pay once use forever on anything as long it is used by the same purchasing person or business.
LivingroomClassics 13 Oct 2012 20:36
i did some minimal research and found out that actually royalty free is free only for the producer of the say documentary...
thats not to say its free performance. i understand that even if the producer pays once, the artists gets paid every time the product is aired, because ascap or similar protects the performance. it says on 'Royalty-free music' on wikip.
bryanbush 14 Oct 2012 01:15
If it's a movie you get paid more for it, you also sign an added release. So if Iron Man 3 buys your clip, then there is an added thing to sign and added money made.
It's not continual royalties every time it plays, but it's more then the standard lic fee, from what I understand.

If it's a TV show, it's no extra lic, no extra money.
jason 14 Oct 2012 04:35
Clips whether it's audio or video sold through P5 RF can be use as many time as the purchaser (and only the purchaser or business) wants and you only get paid once. Hearing that may not please you but that's the way it is under Royalty Free.

Here's a link to P5 License Agreement take the time to read fully.
https://www.pond5.com/legal/license

If you don't understand it contact P5 directly
LivingroomClassics 14 Oct 2012 09:12
yeah i read those but the wiki article made me think...
LivingroomClassics 14 Oct 2012 09:14
i read the legal articles on pond5 but it seems to me like the producer pays once.
that doesnt mean u get paid once too...i mean, when its aired, the television pays the royalties i guess. there;s gotta be something like that going on.
LivingroomClassics 14 Oct 2012 09:14
and yes, i mailed the pond5 crew.
WHstock 14 Oct 2012 09:24
I think this isn't the right place for you to sell your audio if this is such a big deal for you. They can air it as many times as they want. I've got some clips in Air crash investigation episodes which air dozens of times all around the world.
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