How many Items do I have to upload in order to get recognized?
prmusic
4 Feb 2016 08:31
Its a shame they dont have a box on the main page for each category (video, audio etc.) displaying random items from random artists every day to bring attention to other artists and discover new content that would only be hidden at the bottom a search algorithm's results.
RekindlePhoto
4 Feb 2016 14:54
There are 4.7 million footage clips here. Random display would not work or help. If an Artist has 1,000 clips that is still completely insignificant. "Random" Artists are shown on the front page. Many or most of them are Artists with very few clips. It's being done already. New Artists just need to understand that getting into the stock business at this point takes a lot more work on their part and should not expect to be given any advantage over Artists that have been doing it for years. Business is not a food stamp program, hard work over time should always be rewarded first. Wishing everyone luck and good sales.
prmusic
4 Feb 2016 17:12
I don't think any new artist on here expects to be given any advantage - just a mere chance of their stuff getting viewed. If their stuff is not what the client wants then their views won't convert to sales, simple as that. Best of luck to all.
BunFest
4 Feb 2016 17:17
9 drops in the ocean. !!! Really a big deal !!!
Jonathan! you should come and help our new artist!!
Jonathan! you should come and help our new artist!!
ErickMcNerney
4 Feb 2016 17:33
It's true rekindle. It takes a lot of talent and hard work. Just because pretty much anyone these days can take a photo or put together a piece of music does not mean they deserve sales or even views. It has and always will be a business. I am trying to write music I love myself, so I can hardly be upset if I don't get the sales I want. I just want to have no regrets. Even when I do the commercial style tracks I want to put my own flavor into. I don't want to pander. I'm not going to complain though, like, "My dark funeral piece isn't getting any sales!" The fact of the matter is, unless you are doing something that is universally needed, there are not going to be a lot of sales, and even if you do something that is "commercial," there are hundreds of thousands of other tracks that you are competing with. Of course I wish I knew about RF sites back when in their inception, but I cannot live on regrets. The only thing I can do, as you stated, is be in control of my own quality and quantity. Paulo, with 9 tracks currently, you are naturally going to get very low views. There is really no way around that unfortunately.
RekindlePhoto
4 Feb 2016 18:06
Even with 500 products for sale you should get about 0.0106% of the visibility here at P5. With 50 you should get about 0.001% of the visibility. Its so easy in business to do the math. If you sell one product you have less chance of making a single sale than if you have twenty products. And even more chance of a sale with a thousand products. When I started my goal was to make $40 a day on stock sales. Now eight years later and 20,000 more products that goal is long long past. There are still a lot of Artists with far more than I but complaining or questioning why mine don't show up as much as theirs is pointless. You are the only one who controls if and when you make a sale. No one else can help you in any way.
P5 is doing all they can to improve sales for everyone. It's in their best interest to sell as much as possible. It's also in their best interest to bury poor quality products far down in the search results so buyers don't get saturated with a bunch of poorly shot or composed stuff. We all think our stuff is the best, believe me some of mine are not the best. I've improved both in skill and equipment. Handheld stuff is mostly amateurish. Over exposed is mostly amateurish. If all you have to shoot is ducks in a pond then ya need to find a new hobby. If all your music is basic boiler plate electronic disco then maybe it's time to get a time machine and go back thirty years. When you make it to great quality then it's impossible for anyone to determine what will sell and what won't. I've had clips rejected at one agency and I make $10,000 of the same clip at another with many sales. If the quality is good even the curators do not really know.
I have a clip that is real hot across multiple agencies now. I threw it out, I rejected it as too ordinary. I decided to try it anyway. It's well over 50 sales now. A very ordinary clip but quality was good and it fits a niche that seems like a lot of buyers want.
I've owned a number of big businesses. When I hear a competitor asking around on how he can compete with me it's great. I know that they are ready to quit. They don't have the ability, skill, knowledge or perseverance to continue. So I try harder and before long they are out of business. The best wins in the world of business and stock. Be the best or complain about how others are doing better and fail.
Best luck, sales, skill and ability to everyone.
P5 is doing all they can to improve sales for everyone. It's in their best interest to sell as much as possible. It's also in their best interest to bury poor quality products far down in the search results so buyers don't get saturated with a bunch of poorly shot or composed stuff. We all think our stuff is the best, believe me some of mine are not the best. I've improved both in skill and equipment. Handheld stuff is mostly amateurish. Over exposed is mostly amateurish. If all you have to shoot is ducks in a pond then ya need to find a new hobby. If all your music is basic boiler plate electronic disco then maybe it's time to get a time machine and go back thirty years. When you make it to great quality then it's impossible for anyone to determine what will sell and what won't. I've had clips rejected at one agency and I make $10,000 of the same clip at another with many sales. If the quality is good even the curators do not really know.
I have a clip that is real hot across multiple agencies now. I threw it out, I rejected it as too ordinary. I decided to try it anyway. It's well over 50 sales now. A very ordinary clip but quality was good and it fits a niche that seems like a lot of buyers want.
I've owned a number of big businesses. When I hear a competitor asking around on how he can compete with me it's great. I know that they are ready to quit. They don't have the ability, skill, knowledge or perseverance to continue. So I try harder and before long they are out of business. The best wins in the world of business and stock. Be the best or complain about how others are doing better and fail.
Best luck, sales, skill and ability to everyone.
OliverM
5 Feb 2016 14:22
about 900 , XD
Talekeeper_Music
5 Feb 2016 16:33
IMO quantity is important, but quality is much more important. I only sell music so I can't speak for other authors, but for music producers I believe it is much better to strive for a great quality piece and take long time to compose it than dish out 3-4 tracks in place of that which are mediocre. Mediocre tracks might sell a few times while they are new, but in the end they are only one of the many mediocre tracks that are out there. On the other hand, if you produce a high quality track that has it's own flavor, and is memorable it can continue to make income for years and you'll have a great track in your portfolio to show of and you'll be happier. And even if you don't make much sales, you'll still have great music you can be proud of. For me that's the only way to go.
OliverM
5 Feb 2016 16:39
To give you an idea I've got almost 1,500 clips and i'm earning 180$ per month
ErickMcNerney
6 Feb 2016 04:30
I disagree somewhere talekeeper. There are times when I can improvise several great pieces in one day, and spending too much time can cause one to add too many brush strokes, if you will. Simplest is sometimes the best. I am working directly with a company who discovered my music on pond5. They wanted several pieces that were minimal, underproduced tracks. I spent 2-3 weeks and proceeded 60-70 mildly produced but effective pieces. Some were actually really good (though a few were throw aways). I submitted about 60 of them here have had no rejects so far and even got a positive comment on the lot from the curators. This company expressed with me their frustration of the majority of tracks on here (and pretty much everywhere else) being overproduced and over complicated in arrangement. Of course it does depend on the purpose of the video projects, but I think most buyers are just looking for background music.