Canon announces the 60D

RekindlePhoto 5 Sep 2010 11:52
5D, 7D, 60D and t2i video are probably equal. After using the 5D for a couple years and the 7D for a year I would agree on the video side but on the photo side the 5D MKII is far superior. Much less noise especially in lower light conditions. There is definitely a place for both the full frame and the cropped sensor. With video only a small part of the sensor is being used.
dnavarrojr 5 Sep 2010 16:39
The full frame sensor on the 5D actually does more to reduce moire and aliasing, so overall the 5D is superior in both video and stills. The 7D, 550D/T2i, and 60D are all equal with video.

I absolutely love my T2i, but I'd upgrade to the 7D if I could afford it just for the weather proofing. I've run into enough situations already where the lack of weatherproofing on the T2i was a problem.
LUXORPYRAMID 11 Sep 2010 18:21
@MaguireMedia watch this video video:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCHbaUTnVBY
dapoopta 16 Sep 2010 11:03
Only benefit I see for the 60D vs t2i is the flip screen. I like to do videos of myself for stock, so that would be a good selling point. I would never get the 7D over either of these.
RekindlePhoto 16 Sep 2010 12:25
The 7d is more expensive but it also has added quality. Stronger case, easier and more organized menu and selectors, dual processor, shutter life 30% longer, better weather proofing. In most situations the quality of t2i and 7D is minimal and maybe not discernible. When talking to the Canon reps at the NAB they all stated that the t2i is more of a hobbyist camera and the 7D is more for the professional. Yes they want to sell higher priced cameras. Since the NAB was more on the pro level they really were not excited about the T2i. I'm not putting it down cause I know many great artists are using it and making excellent footage. I personally spent the extra and got the 7D for my backup camera for the 5D MKII. Without a doubt the 5D MKII makes cleaner photos.
dapoopta 16 Sep 2010 14:20
For video the t2i and the 7d are the same. Maybe for photo processing and looks the 7D looks more professional, but it isn't... Of course canon is going to say the 7D is more professional, it costs more :-)
RekindlePhoto 16 Sep 2010 19:48
The selection controls and menu items are organized easier in the 7D. Canon purposely made it a little more confusing and complicated in the t2i to help justify the price difference. Doesn't the t2i have a single processor where the 7D has a dual processor? You are correct that the options on video are the same but there are processing differences between them .. even so slight that it would be difficult or impossible to see. You are right, the extra $800-1000 for the 7D might not be worth it if all a person can afford is the t2i or 60D.
dnavarrojr 16 Sep 2010 23:36
As I've stated (and re-stated), if I could afford a 7D I would get one. I love my T2i, it's great and the quality of video is IDENTICAL to that of the 7D. But to me the price difference is worth it for the 7D for the mere fact that it's weather-proofed.

I have missed a LOT of opportunities to shoot video with my T2i because of the weather or situations where my T2i could be damaged by water (on a speed-boat, or severe humidity). That, more than anything, is the true advantage of the 7D over the T2i. As for the actual operation of shooting video and stills, I'd put my stuff up against anything from the 7D any time.

And I'd personally skip the 60D because of the same issue, non-weather proofed body. I personally don't need an articulating screen (I use an external LCD monitor). Although the in-camera editing of clips could be useful for stock if you're submitting footage directly from the camera.
LUXORPYRAMID 20 Sep 2010 17:49
The Spanish video above has the intent to sell the Canon XF300 in the Mexican market. The interviewer is a cameraman and he asked the 2 Canon Marketing Executives: "Why should I buy this BIG, HEAVY, and VERY EXPENSIVE video camera when I can buy a much cheaper EOS vDSLR which is becoming more and more popular in the TV industry and offers a great picture quality and low light performance? " The Canon executives where not prepared to answer that question. They tried to justify the XF300 by saying things like: "This camera has a multiple use lens. You do not have to switch lenses. EOS cameras give that peculiar film movie look this one doesn't." The cameraman told them that EOS cameras are becoming better all the time and are easy to carry and use. Finally the executive on the left told the interviewer: "It is up to videographers if they want this camera to survive or if they switch to the EOS market. If videographers feel that the EOS cameras offer everything they eant, then this camera will disappear. " They could not explain the virtues ot the XF300 over the EOS cameras.

The winner of this bout by knockout: Canon EOS cameras. Canon needs new marketing managers for the XF300-305.
jason 20 Sep 2010 23:49
Look at this way. While EOS cameras are great up to 12 minutes they will never replace the XF300 or any other video camera in the future. There are to many events that require one to shoot nonstop for an hour or more. So the bottom line is both have their place in the industry.
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