Not illegal to buy them but illegal to use them - microcopters

jason 14 Dec 2014 20:21
The information in that article "How to prevent fly aways with dji phantom quadcopters" is over a year old. In fact it's so old they are discussing problems with the original phantom and the fc40 quadcopters. There are some facts left out by those who claim they had a flyaway like what modification they made to their craft. There are just to many ungivens to make all of those flyaway claims believable. Without tangible evidence or physical data anyone can claim a flyaway but can they prove it. .
RekindlePhoto 15 Dec 2014 00:10
The proof is DJI admits they have a problem.
jason 15 Dec 2014 04:53
That's your story and you been trying to convince everyone you are right since last July. If you so sure you right show all of us in black & white on their letterhead that DJI admitted there is a problem. Until then do us all a favor and keep your negative comments to yourself as they're not constructive.

As I stated the article that cinecameratv post is over a year old and refers the original phantom & the fc40 has nothing to do with with present day technology.
RekindlePhoto 15 Dec 2014 07:05
Jason, Jason, Jason oh my. I or no one has anything to prove to you. The forums on UAV are full of the same thing I have said. It is just a buyers beware. The new one I have has not given me any problems. Many have asked question on what manufacturer is best. In my case (and it seems not in your case) DJI is not up front and breaks promises. Even one of the original creators of DJI has broken off and started his own company due to internal problems.

May I suggest Jason that you instead of attacking give the positive parts of what you have seen. I have given both the positive and negative. When they work they are great. When they malfunction good luck. This is not anything negative about you Jason or your older version of DJI. Please share all the positives you have enjoyed.

I know there are many positive points like easy to learn how to fly, ready to fly, very stable (at least on the newer Vision versions), The Vision + gives good video IMO equivalent to about the GoPro 3. Turning, moving and in moderate wind the camera stays very stable with very little or no jello or movement. So yup, when they work I recommend them. The difference between the Phantom and Vison is like night and day. Unless you are trying to save money get the newer ones with either the 3D GoPro mount or the Vision +. The stability, time of flight is much better. And yes I have owned three DJI.

The new Vision + has a fly away problem but I'm sure they are working hard to remedy and fix the problem. Any fly-a-way is not good for DJI either.

Here are exerts from some of the e-mails received from DJI.

"In fact for over 90% flyaway cases, we provide less than 30% discount as compensation"
"there isn’t misoperation" (in relation to how my fly-a-way was being operated)
"RF interference does exist sometimes even in open ground without transmitters towers or HV cables nearby"
From the authorized DJI dealer "DJI poor customer service is making XXXX look bad."

So just like there is discussions about new cameras, photographers here in the forum should see all sides before making purchases. There is no room for artists attacks. I am so glad you have enjoyed your DJI and hope it continues to operate beyond your expectations.
jason 15 Dec 2014 15:24
All talk NO SHOW!!!!
cinecameratv 22 Dec 2014 01:42
So the public does not want "commercial drones". Peeping Toms are going to use them anyway.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/12/19/poll-americans-skeptical-commercial-drones/eWrJB1cgJCATky1NxKQbRL/story.html
mark29 22 Dec 2014 14:10
After studying the impending FAA regulations on commercial drone use in the United States I have decided I neither have the money nor time to get a pilots license. I have sold all my training hexcopter gear and am moving on to other things.
cinecameratv 22 Dec 2014 23:02
If the pilot thing goes through, I am sure that some pilots with quadcopters and proper license are going to tattle-tale those that are taking away their market share and do not have a pilot's license.
mark29 23 Dec 2014 01:03
Exactly what I was thinking. IMO the FAA will develop strict rules/requirements so the novices like me will not have the resources to become permitted. This is how they will contain the activity. This is evidenced by the small number of companies that have been granted a Certificate of Waiver by the FAA to fly/shoot commercially .You can read the waiver requirements at http://www.faa.gov/uas/legislative_programs/section_333/media/HeliVideo_Productions_LLC-11065.pdf
RekindlePhoto 23 Dec 2014 04:37
If a private pilot license change is made it will involve a lot more than the sensationalism the news agencies are making it out to be. Currently, private pilots cannot do anything commercial, they can't charge for flights nor use the aircraft in any commercial way.

There will be new restrictions and they are very much needed.