Neo Scene
JHDT_Productions
9 Apr 2009 20:32
Has anyone used Neo Scene?
http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm
I downloaded the trial version to help with the 5D files.
When I try to run the native files on my pc they are choppy and it takes a lot of time to scrub through the clip in After Effects.
Using this it creates an AVI file that loads very easy into AE and is supposed to be lossless.
I was wondering about this excerpt from their website:
"During conversion, CineForm doubles the chroma (color) accuracy of the source files for improved color accuracy and chroma keying. (HDV and AVCHD cameras record in a color-reduced format known as 4:2:0 that CineForm restores to professional 4:2:2 chroma.)"
Does that mean it gives the file more color depth and makes it easier to key for green screen?
So far I do like how easy it makes life editing these files.
So I may buy it. It's not to expensive anyway.
Jake
http://www.cineform.com/products/NeoScene.htm
I downloaded the trial version to help with the 5D files.
When I try to run the native files on my pc they are choppy and it takes a lot of time to scrub through the clip in After Effects.
Using this it creates an AVI file that loads very easy into AE and is supposed to be lossless.
I was wondering about this excerpt from their website:
"During conversion, CineForm doubles the chroma (color) accuracy of the source files for improved color accuracy and chroma keying. (HDV and AVCHD cameras record in a color-reduced format known as 4:2:0 that CineForm restores to professional 4:2:2 chroma.)"
Does that mean it gives the file more color depth and makes it easier to key for green screen?
So far I do like how easy it makes life editing these files.
So I may buy it. It's not to expensive anyway.
Jake
skylightpictures
9 Apr 2009 22:26
Hello Jake,
Here's a link to straight forward info about digital video color space.
http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/colorspace/
Original camera files recorded at 4:2:2 has much better color depth than 4:2:0 therefore more visible color gradation and apparent resolution. How Neo Scene claims to "restore" something that was never there I don't know. Probably another color averaging process.
Usually best to test and compare results for yourself.
Cheers,
Will
Here's a link to straight forward info about digital video color space.
http://www.dvxuser.com/articles/colorspace/
Original camera files recorded at 4:2:2 has much better color depth than 4:2:0 therefore more visible color gradation and apparent resolution. How Neo Scene claims to "restore" something that was never there I don't know. Probably another color averaging process.
Usually best to test and compare results for yourself.
Cheers,
Will
JHDT_Productions
10 Apr 2009 00:31
Thanks for the info Will, very interesting reading.
I don't know about restoring the color depth either but it does let me edit the video in real time instead of being choppy.
Jake
I don't know about restoring the color depth either but it does let me edit the video in real time instead of being choppy.
Jake
ironstrike
10 Apr 2009 01:36
Interesting.
Personally I can do this myself. I mean I can convert any video to 4:4:4 uncompressed then add more color to it if I want.
The 5d does great at greenscreening, ive come to the conclusion that colorspace is irrelevent so long as the picture is clear.
Personally I can do this myself. I mean I can convert any video to 4:4:4 uncompressed then add more color to it if I want.
The 5d does great at greenscreening, ive come to the conclusion that colorspace is irrelevent so long as the picture is clear.
AAndromeda
10 Apr 2009 05:17
I've used cineform from time to time and it really takes the headaches out of editing. dont know much else.
RekindlePhoto
11 Apr 2009 14:28
After you play with it for a while report back and let us know what you think. Give it a try with normal HDV and let us know what you think of the workflow and quality or will Premier Pro or After Effects is still a good choice.
Don
Don