Canon EOS 5d

ironstrike 24 Sep 2008 22:52
Interesting... 13 minutes is pretty long, Yes the red cameras have big sensors, but I don't know if its equal to 35 mm. That trailer looks incredible though, film is definately on the way out.
crackerclips 24 Sep 2008 22:54
ironstrike says:
Whoa thats cool... that DOF is real too? It looks kind of simulated in some parts.

Hey ironstrike,

A tilt-shift lens was used to create the effect that objects on the same plane are both in and out of focus. The tilt-shift lens is the 35mm equivalent of lens movements available on a view camera.

On another note I watched the bird video available on dpreview

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkii.asp

While I was impressed with the quality at first glance I noticed and became concerned with the sensor dust spots viewable throughout the blue sky. In my book that could present a problem. I was happy to get away from spotting sensor dust in still images when I moved primarily to shooting video. Is there even an easy way to remove dust spots from a moving video frame?

Bryan
ironstrike 25 Sep 2008 00:01
Ah I see, thank you for informing me! :)
Also it is kinda possible to remove dust in After effects, but its time consuming.
Much easier and less time consuming to just clean the lense.
crackerclips 25 Sep 2008 01:06
It's not dust on the lens that I'm worried about. It's dust on the camera sensor. No matter how well you clean the sensor on the 5D most videos shot with it will have some dust that becomes especially noticeable with a continuous tone background. I know the camera has a built in dust repelling system but it was either turned off or doesn't work that well based on the sample video of the bird. Even if dust can be removed via software I think it will be too tedious to do. If that's the case I'll happily stick with a straight up video camera. I guess I'll find out in time if that's the case.

Bryan
RekindlePhoto 25 Sep 2008 01:21
Yup, anytime you have removable lens there is problem with dust on the sensor. Normally it doesn't show up until f/11 to f/30 or so. And, yes blue sky is a bad background. I have the Canon 20D and 5D and both have a dust / sensor problem. I have a pro sensor cleaning kit that I have to use. NOTE: Don't try a home made way of cleaning sensors, I tried it and it resulted in me paying $375 to buy a new sensor for the 20D.

Don
Normstock 25 Sep 2008 10:45
Hi Don,

Usually when you clean your sensor, it is the high pass glass filter you touch, as this covers the sensor.

My Nikon D300 has no dust on the sensor, I set the "cleaning mode" to come on every time I turn the camera on, no dust yet. In many ways a good camera. I have a 5D Mkll on order, just looking for some actors now.

The Canon 5D Mkll that shot this film was a pre production model and I bet it had already had a hard life before it was used in this film. I think if you had your own version it would be better looked after.

Norman
RekindlePhoto 25 Sep 2008 13:55
Yup you're right about the glass filter, it still cost $375 to replace it. Canon claimed that the sensor had to be replaced due to the scratches. Dust and even small hairs on the sensor really do show up on solid colors especially blue skies. Still the 5D and new one are excellent cameras and hard to beat the photos they can capture.

Don
JHDT_Productions 11 Oct 2008 15:35
Here is some clips made from the camera. This one blows me away, 800mm lens, ISO 3200.
It's better then I would have ever thought.


Canon 5d test video

Some other sample clips here:
http://www.slashgear.com/canon-eos-5d-mark-ii-sample-video-clips-1716575/

I think I'm going to sell all my Nikon gear and get this camera and some good lenses.

Jake
RekindlePhoto 11 Oct 2008 19:47
Yup and excellent video, contrast, clarity, DOF, sharpness all excellent even on this reduced quality web version. I'm sold on it for both digital and clips when needed. I wish I knew what settings the clip was done with for this web version of the bird. Much better than most stock agencies use to sell clip. Anyone have any idea on compression settings for this video for web use?

Just buy a big or several big hard drives, the digital photos will he huge files.

Don
ironstrike 14 Oct 2008 00:42
Im pretty sure Im going to get this camera for video use. As far as my research can tell it is (for all practical purposes) equal or slightly greater. to Hollywood film cameras like panavision or vistavision. That sounds crazy, but I think its true if you look at the sensor sizes and specs. They should really charge more for this camera. lol
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