20 tracks, 6 views, 0 sales. Any tips?
paulmodarn
18 Feb 2016 15:37
Hey!
I've only been on the site for a couple of weeks and, naturally, I'm not expecting much at this point. Having said that, so far I've posted 20 tracks and in turn received 4 clip views and 2 page views (maybe just me clicking on my own stuff?). That seems extremely low, I'm thinking I might be doing something wrong and I've got a few questions.
From what I've read in the forums the general advice is to just post more stuff. If the majority of my tracks don't get any views, how would that work? If a potential buyer sorts search results by popularity, I'm definitely not going to be at the top of that list. Now, I might have a chance if one were to sort results by newest. Which brings me to my next question:
Does pond5 accept every decent submission? All of my stuff got accepted. Don't get me wrong, that's fantastic! But I might have to do a better job of curating my own tracks so the good stuff doesn't get lost.
Back to getting sales, what about posting on social networks and stuff? I don't have any sort of following.
Tags? I've added 50 to my most recent tracks, doesn't seem to help.
So that's where I'm at right now. Any tips? How did you guys first get started?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks a lot!
PM
I've only been on the site for a couple of weeks and, naturally, I'm not expecting much at this point. Having said that, so far I've posted 20 tracks and in turn received 4 clip views and 2 page views (maybe just me clicking on my own stuff?). That seems extremely low, I'm thinking I might be doing something wrong and I've got a few questions.
From what I've read in the forums the general advice is to just post more stuff. If the majority of my tracks don't get any views, how would that work? If a potential buyer sorts search results by popularity, I'm definitely not going to be at the top of that list. Now, I might have a chance if one were to sort results by newest. Which brings me to my next question:
Does pond5 accept every decent submission? All of my stuff got accepted. Don't get me wrong, that's fantastic! But I might have to do a better job of curating my own tracks so the good stuff doesn't get lost.
Back to getting sales, what about posting on social networks and stuff? I don't have any sort of following.
Tags? I've added 50 to my most recent tracks, doesn't seem to help.
So that's where I'm at right now. Any tips? How did you guys first get started?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks a lot!
PM
Goldentunes
19 Feb 2016 02:00
Upload WAY more tracks!
paulmodarn
19 Feb 2016 14:46
Hey, Jsixstringgold! Thanks for answering. I fully intend to upload more tracks. But should I upload everything I've got? Does Pond5 ever reject audio submissions?
Goldentunes
19 Feb 2016 15:44
Yes, they do reject. Focusing on quality AND quantity is the way to go, imho.
paulmodarn
19 Feb 2016 19:51
Thanks a lot for your help!
LeChuckz
21 Feb 2016 10:18
0 sales here. And im on pond5 since 8 month
Osiris36
21 Feb 2016 18:24
i'm in the same boat as you PM. only on the site 2 or 3 weeks. 7 tracks up 12 views. i too want to reach a bigger audience but other than uploading hundreds of tracks (which i dont have, i prefer to concentrate on quality) i'm not sure how this whole thing works on RF sites like this other than just getting lucky.
ThisBruceSmith
23 Feb 2016 01:49
Hi Paul, Benjamin, and Danny,
I checked out your work and I think you've all got some interesting stuff going on. I'm not a top seller here, and don't presume to have all the answers, but I have had some sales over the last couple years and I can offer an observation or two.
There are probably several reasons that you're having trouble getting sales off the ground. It takes time, obviously, but beyond that:
1. If you go to the Artist Resources area (there's a link at the bottom of this page) and hunt around you can see what the top sellers are. You'll find many of them make heavy use of keywords in their titles.
2. People looking for background music for their videos usually want to convey very specific moods and emotions. Some of my best sellers have titles like "Ambient Ominous," "Sense of Foreboding," and "Building Urgency." Try to think like your buyer would think and write with the kind of mood in mind that he/she wants to convey.
3. You can price as high or low (within limits) as you choose, but if you price at the top end you must be willing to wait for a buyer for whom price is no object, given the average price of a best selling track (20-25 USD, according to P5 on the item submission page).
4. Using social media is definitely a good idea. Try to put yourself and your work out there and look for groups that focus on your prospective buyers' interests (for example, independent film).
Remember, in this marketplace you're not just a composer; in a sense you're providing a solution for someone's video/podcast/on-hold/presentation/storytelling (or whatever else) problem. I hope this provides a different perspective that you find useful.
Good luck all,
B~)
I checked out your work and I think you've all got some interesting stuff going on. I'm not a top seller here, and don't presume to have all the answers, but I have had some sales over the last couple years and I can offer an observation or two.
There are probably several reasons that you're having trouble getting sales off the ground. It takes time, obviously, but beyond that:
1. If you go to the Artist Resources area (there's a link at the bottom of this page) and hunt around you can see what the top sellers are. You'll find many of them make heavy use of keywords in their titles.
2. People looking for background music for their videos usually want to convey very specific moods and emotions. Some of my best sellers have titles like "Ambient Ominous," "Sense of Foreboding," and "Building Urgency." Try to think like your buyer would think and write with the kind of mood in mind that he/she wants to convey.
3. You can price as high or low (within limits) as you choose, but if you price at the top end you must be willing to wait for a buyer for whom price is no object, given the average price of a best selling track (20-25 USD, according to P5 on the item submission page).
4. Using social media is definitely a good idea. Try to put yourself and your work out there and look for groups that focus on your prospective buyers' interests (for example, independent film).
Remember, in this marketplace you're not just a composer; in a sense you're providing a solution for someone's video/podcast/on-hold/presentation/storytelling (or whatever else) problem. I hope this provides a different perspective that you find useful.
Good luck all,
B~)
electrovibe_music
27 Feb 2016 08:07
Great post,ThisBruceSmith! I uploaded only two tracks a few months ago and left them without doing any kind of promotion at all as i've been busy doing other things (i'm only just logging back in now, months later) and guess what? no ones even looked at my profile page! So that in itself tells me you must promote your music wherever you can. Pond 5 gives us the platform to potentially make a living out of doing what we love to do but you still have to work hard promoting. That's the bit I struggle/can't be bothered with!!
LivingroomClassics
27 Feb 2016 09:37
LeChuckz your price is mainly 15 dollars. try to increase all to minimum 30 and see how it goes. and test for 2 months.