All of my audio tracks are being rejected suddenly
TuneLight
3 Dec 2015 13:06
And now an approval...finally.
TimeSound_Music
3 Dec 2015 19:07
..another victim of Curator 22..lol..I sell a lot of that stuff in other places. He did approve 2 tracks though, the ones slightly quirkier.
It surprised me, I have been doing music for a living for 20 years, I mix for some big artists in the UK and do library music on the side. However, I think they really are saturated with corporate, motivational, epic, etc…but then, it would be nice to know if they are in need of any particular style of music so we can focus on those. Or maybe Curator 22 just had enough of ukulele and whistling..:-)
It surprised me, I have been doing music for a living for 20 years, I mix for some big artists in the UK and do library music on the side. However, I think they really are saturated with corporate, motivational, epic, etc…but then, it would be nice to know if they are in need of any particular style of music so we can focus on those. Or maybe Curator 22 just had enough of ukulele and whistling..:-)
Talekeeper_Music
3 Dec 2015 20:44
I talked about that with curator46 (he genuinely seems like a good guy/girl btw) and he said they will have some form of a newsletter or something similar letting us know what genres are in demand and what they have too much next year. Also he/she mentioned some other improvements coming so I'm curious how it will go from there. But yeah I also believe that they really just have way too much of the corporate/motivational/epic tracks, those are like the 3 genres I came to instantly hate by just reading the title (even tho I compose a lot of epic tracks) and I guess some of the reviewers are sick of them too :D
TuneLight
4 Dec 2015 10:40
Yes, I'm sure they're all great people and they're doing a fantastic job with the workload that they have, since Pond5 has an incredibly low amount of reviewers for the volume of tracks they have. However, it's still frustrating when you spend days working on something just to basically have a crapshoot of a chance of it being accepted. We should open up a forum of suggestions on how to effectively reduce the clutter in the marketplace in other ways that do not stifle creativity. No one can predict what will sell. What was popular 6 months ago has changed, and what is popular now will be different 6 months from now. I think reviews should be based on the mixing/mastering and overall aesthetic value of the music itself, and less on whether that particular reviewer *thinks* it might do well on the marketplace. There are more effective ways of weeding tracks out, and combatting over saturation in any given genre. By the way Talekeeper, I listened to your tunes and you have some great stuff. Definitely not rejection-worthy.
Talekeeper_Music
4 Dec 2015 19:32
@TuneLight Thanks man! Your tunes are also very nice, those piano pieces really hit the right spot in my opinion.
I agree, there's a saying in my country "Every hole finds it's plug" so... yeah, I think almost any piece of music that is at least produced properly can find some use in media. I also think that the only way you can actually truly judge a piece of music is by production value, everything else can be viewed as artistic expression and what one person hates another might like immensely.
That's one of the reasons I like Audiojungle, they basically accept everything that is properly mixed and mastered, very rarely will they reject a piece based on its musicality. And even if they do reject it, you actually always get an explanation why it was rejected so you can strive to avoid those same mistakes in next tracks. And I don't think they ever had a problem with oversaturation, of course, their search engine works a bit differently and their whole business plan is based around latest or newest tracks, so you have to upload constantly to be in the game. The downside of Aj are their really low fixed prices. But that is counterbalanced a bit by the volume of sales you make (at least I do).
I agree, there's a saying in my country "Every hole finds it's plug" so... yeah, I think almost any piece of music that is at least produced properly can find some use in media. I also think that the only way you can actually truly judge a piece of music is by production value, everything else can be viewed as artistic expression and what one person hates another might like immensely.
That's one of the reasons I like Audiojungle, they basically accept everything that is properly mixed and mastered, very rarely will they reject a piece based on its musicality. And even if they do reject it, you actually always get an explanation why it was rejected so you can strive to avoid those same mistakes in next tracks. And I don't think they ever had a problem with oversaturation, of course, their search engine works a bit differently and their whole business plan is based around latest or newest tracks, so you have to upload constantly to be in the game. The downside of Aj are their really low fixed prices. But that is counterbalanced a bit by the volume of sales you make (at least I do).
CW83
6 Dec 2015 11:24
Same happened to me, only rejections all of a sudden, never had that.
LivingroomClassics
8 Dec 2015 08:58
someone mentioned that curators going through portfolio deleting unsold stuff would be a good solution. i dont see why. if someone has a good clip on which he only put 3 tags, he obviously didnt get many views on it and neither sales. so how would deleting that clip be a good solution? on the other hand, someone putting 50 tags and heavy promoting his clip on social media although it's a corporate track would get more sales, so according to the proposal, this clip should stay...i see no sense in this.
and about rejecting corporate (you said about curators maybe saturated with ukulele and corporate), maybe they wouldnt get tired of these genres if everybody didnt try so very hard to make them. if contributors would just make what they like instead of constantly trying to please the clients, thigns would be different. if everybody would stop conforming to the "needs" (although they end up imposing the needs by providing only this type of material and making the client not able to reach other types of compositions), we wouldnt be so tired of the ukulele and corporate stuff.
and aj....sucks :)
and about rejecting corporate (you said about curators maybe saturated with ukulele and corporate), maybe they wouldnt get tired of these genres if everybody didnt try so very hard to make them. if contributors would just make what they like instead of constantly trying to please the clients, thigns would be different. if everybody would stop conforming to the "needs" (although they end up imposing the needs by providing only this type of material and making the client not able to reach other types of compositions), we wouldnt be so tired of the ukulele and corporate stuff.
and aj....sucks :)
TuneLight
8 Dec 2015 10:41
If a track is 6 months to a year old and doesn't have any sales (or only 2 or 3), regardless of how it's been tagged, promoted, etc, obviously it's not getting traction on the site and probably never will. In those cases, I think it would be better to take them down to help *unclutter* the site.
Levakovs
8 Dec 2015 15:12
95 % of my tracks were also rejected by Curator 46.
RekindlePhoto
8 Dec 2015 16:07
Such a silly thought to delete files that haven't sold in 6 months to a year. There are millions of files available to buy. Every week I and others sell clips that sell for the first time in many years. That's just the game. It takes time and a year is a very short period of time. Maybe ten years but nothing less. This is a long term business. Of course new Artists that have very few clips are always free to delete as many clips of their own anytime. To suggest others long term Artists should delete files is just silly or worst. Music I believe is a very difficult road in sales. At a certain point music begins to be so similar with slight tempo or pitch changes. So much is old style disco type music and P5 is deciding enough is enough. Good luck on your sales.