Codec confusion!
Eddie
7 Feb 2012 00:06
As far as i know prores isn't available for windows users. So what is our best option? Maybe you guys should sent a newsletter to all contributers about this....
SimpleIconic
7 Feb 2012 01:10
I think you are correct curator7, with those settings H264 looks good when that is your camera's native codec. I have re-edited these files and they come out fine, even after color correcting and everything.
.Mov package with .h264 codec
100% quality
default bit rate
same framerate as shot in.
I wish that NeoScene Avi was more mainstream, as it is a very superior codec, but the buyer would have to do a little extra work to edit the codec, and we want to make it as easy for them as possible.
I have always wondered what the Windows file will be, and NeoScene is the best I have seen, as it is a heavy file with 422 and a lot of room for color manipulation.
.Mov package with .h264 codec
100% quality
default bit rate
same framerate as shot in.
I wish that NeoScene Avi was more mainstream, as it is a very superior codec, but the buyer would have to do a little extra work to edit the codec, and we want to make it as easy for them as possible.
I have always wondered what the Windows file will be, and NeoScene is the best I have seen, as it is a heavy file with 422 and a lot of room for color manipulation.
SimpleIconic
7 Feb 2012 01:17
If you guys could generate an h264 from NeoScene .Avi 422 and generate an H264 from ProRes 422, then you would satisfy sellers using both operating systems, and wanting to produce the best possible file. That would be harmony, and buyers would always be able to fall back on the h264.
EarthUncutTV
7 Feb 2012 01:18
Thanks for the info curator7 - H264 looks to be the best option for interlaced footage then for us PC users.
vadervideo
7 Feb 2012 18:06
This is not an answered question! It seems curator7 believes that all of us are Apple Mac houses. There is no clear answer regarding people on the Windows platform. This is mostly unusable information for the Windows side of the world. AVID in many cases is also not an option. So let's get real here.. what are the correct solutions for both platforms. God forbid a new artist reads this. It would scare the living c$$% out of them. How about some clear and concise information - not tidbits, curator 7?
zygistudio
7 Feb 2012 18:26
@curator7,
Can you accept the files in Sony MXF (.mxf) HD422 format? At least few Windows users will be happy then. The quality is excellent and sizes are 50% smaller than PhotoJpeg.
This question was asked nearly 3.6 years ago by Francois but never answered: https://www.pond5.com/ru/community?thread=112759
Zygis
Can you accept the files in Sony MXF (.mxf) HD422 format? At least few Windows users will be happy then. The quality is excellent and sizes are 50% smaller than PhotoJpeg.
This question was asked nearly 3.6 years ago by Francois but never answered: https://www.pond5.com/ru/community?thread=112759
Zygis
bayoudragonfly
26 Feb 2012 17:07
If we are uploading ProRes.. which is recommended... I was using 4:2:2 HQ but i have a few clips that are longer and made it over 1 GB @ 230.86 Mbit.sec)
Using regular 4:2:2 it goes down to 662 MB @ 139.89mbit/sec...
PhotoJPG is in the midde with 848.3 MB @ 179.27 Mbit/sec
(info gathered from Quicktime)
... which to use?
i've already got some waiting to be approved that are ProRes HQ..
Using regular 4:2:2 it goes down to 662 MB @ 139.89mbit/sec...
PhotoJPG is in the midde with 848.3 MB @ 179.27 Mbit/sec
(info gathered from Quicktime)
... which to use?
i've already got some waiting to be approved that are ProRes HQ..
vadervideo
26 Feb 2012 17:45
Still no proper answer from the curator!!! Many weeks now have passed. So here is an answer of sorts:
Apple QT h.264 on Windows is only available through Adobe AE, Premiere Pro and then of course QuickTime Pro. This is a joke as many software vendors have yet to adopt the f&&4ing Apple piece of S%$t codec. H.264 is a real pain in the A$$ in the WIndows world. Even the MacOS platform still has issues with it in regards to being fully supported. Yet many agencies are now demanding that we supply footage in this f&&5ed up format! Perhaps it's time for the agencies to come back down to earth and get real. If it's not broken, don't try to fix or force c#$p on us! Until the rest of the actual industry really supports this, don't ask us to change midstream. You are basically saying that all legacy footage from less than 6 months ago is considered outdated and useless. Curator 7 - wake the F%%k cup and smell the coffee before you post this type of Sh%%!
Apple QT h.264 on Windows is only available through Adobe AE, Premiere Pro and then of course QuickTime Pro. This is a joke as many software vendors have yet to adopt the f&&4ing Apple piece of S%$t codec. H.264 is a real pain in the A$$ in the WIndows world. Even the MacOS platform still has issues with it in regards to being fully supported. Yet many agencies are now demanding that we supply footage in this f&&5ed up format! Perhaps it's time for the agencies to come back down to earth and get real. If it's not broken, don't try to fix or force c#$p on us! Until the rest of the actual industry really supports this, don't ask us to change midstream. You are basically saying that all legacy footage from less than 6 months ago is considered outdated and useless. Curator 7 - wake the F%%k cup and smell the coffee before you post this type of Sh%%!
SimpleIconic
26 Feb 2012 19:01
I have never had a problem with h264. It is editable on both mac and pc, and you can create it on both. In my real job, I provide h264 to the media regularly and it has also never been a problem for them. I am not sure who these people are that have problems with h264, I always hear about them, but have never met them. Has anyone here had a specific problem editing it?
Pro Res on the other hand will have obvious problems. It is only compatible to apple products, which is not a big percentage of global OS users.
For right now, I am finding that my time lapse looks best in Photo Jpeg, and my video looks best in H264 rendered at %100, because that is what it is shot in.
Pro Res on the other hand will have obvious problems. It is only compatible to apple products, which is not a big percentage of global OS users.
For right now, I am finding that my time lapse looks best in Photo Jpeg, and my video looks best in H264 rendered at %100, because that is what it is shot in.
danielschweinert
26 Feb 2012 19:44
I've just read this thread and I didn't know that Photo-JPEG is not prefered anymore. Can someone from Pond5 clarify these things please. What is the actual preferred codec for progressive material with all the settings?
...UPDATE...
Just contacted P5. Let's see what is prefered.
...UPDATE...
Just contacted P5. Let's see what is prefered.