Adobe and QuickTime

Beckhusen 8 Nov 2017 09:36
Surely most of you noted the Adobe message that QT support will stop soon and we shall convert into a non-legacy format.
In any way i don't understand what this really means.
Is the meaning that in the future we cannot open .mov clips in Adobe, or is the meaning that we only cannot export our clips any more as .mov files?
Maybe with 4k clips this shouldn't be problem when exporting as .mp4 in best resolution, but who will accept HD clips in mp4?
RekindlePhoto 8 Nov 2017 15:55
https://www.pond5.com/community?forum=622&thread=72821896

I've asked P5 for information or suggestions since they are in tight with Adobe. Do we stop using Pro Res in QT or Photo JPG? What direction do they recommend Artists go? No answer. I also don't understand exactly non-legacy format, is it all QT? We can all guess but Pond5 really should get us the information please.
gregp5 8 Nov 2017 16:01
We're seeking clarification, stay tuned, folks..
Beckhusen 8 Nov 2017 19:39
Ok, thanks
RekindlePhoto 10 Nov 2017 03:04
thanks for the help Greg ...
dapoopta 14 Nov 2017 18:52
Greg to the rescue. GREG FOR PRESIDENT :-)
ODesigns 14 Nov 2017 19:25
I think only "legacy" codecs (I assume that means "old, out-dated" codecs) will soon no longer be supported in Adobe on a Windows PC, since Apple stopped supporting QuickTime for Windows last year.

I believe these "professional" codecs can still be used withOUT the need for QuickTime installed: uncompressed, DV, IMX, MPEG2, XDCAM, h264, JPEG, DNxHD, DNxHR, AVCI and Cineform. Those will work without the need for the QuickTime player installed. (Source: https://blogs.adobe.com/creativecloud/quicktime-on-windows - I know this is an old link, but it's the best explanation I've found so far.)

Prores is the only one that won't work on a PC now, since apparently that requires the QuickTime infrastructure to be installed to work. But since Prores isn't "officially" supported or offered on the PC, it really isn't an issue.

I also read on the Creative Cow forums that if you just install the codecs, you should be fine without the need for the QuickTime Player installed. I don't know how accurate that is, however, since I haven't tried yet. I probably won't bother trying to find a solution until Adobe actually kills off QuickTime support.

This is an issue I have to overcome for work, since we use PCs. But for me and my stock clips, it isn't a concern since I use a Mac.

So, that's my solution for all you guys -- move the the Mac and your QuickTime troubles will be washed away with one sip of the Kool-aid. :)
RekindlePhoto 14 Nov 2017 20:28
Any official word from Adobe Greg?
gregp5 14 Nov 2017 21:01
We haven't heard back from Adobe yet. In the meantime, check out these two links that should help clear things up:

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/32-bit-quicktimesupportending.html

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2396734#

It seems like only old 'legacy' codecs will be affected. No need to worry about modern codecs such as ProRes, h264 etc., which are supported natively within Premiere and do not depend on Quicktime.
ODesigns 14 Nov 2017 21:23
If I’m reading that right, looks like importing QuickTime won't be as big of a problem as exporting. The list for native QT exporting options is slim:

* Uncompressed
* DV
* Cineform
* DNxHD/DNxHR
* Animation
* ProRes (Mac only)

I guess that means Windows users who like to export the unofficial and no-longer available "Miraizon" Prores files won't be able to in a future update, and the other QT options aren't too palatable in my opinion.

Uncompressed = files too large.
DV = really only good for SD
DNxHD = proprietary

I never used or tried Cineform. Anyone have experience with this one?

That leaves Animation, which would also generate large files.

This will be interesting moving forward when Adobe does decide to pull the plug.
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