My second video assignment

dapoopta 8 Feb 2009 19:52
Thanks for the tips Francious. I also almost threw up by the 20min mark of cloverfield... I saw it in the theater.

The video is 'raw' footage that I uploaded for the dancers, I did not edit or change anything, since they wanted the source and aren't going to pay me for any of that.

I did put a little bit of time into the rock concert doing editing ,switching between cam A and B. This was also done in about 20minutes, since the band was in a rush to obtain the footage. My first 2 camera shot, and editing was done quickly, so I am not sure if I would call it my best work :-). I am really happy with it though.
ironstrike 8 Feb 2009 20:35
Im thinking more "saving private ryan" shakey not cloverfield shakey lol.

I guess but then again there is also editing style, Im not sure what editing style Scott is going for. I don't like reality shows editing styles at all....bleh. (to shakey)....Also to me documentary editing is boring (too many tripod shots.) Actually I like using a lot of subtle effects. My editing style is more like the show "burn notice" or at least thats what other people say.

Thanks! Its not an accurate helicopter model, made in after effects. I used video and pictures and film for some of the subtle effects. I used pictures of a helicopter in two slightly different positions and used a morph program to generate keyframes (to make it look slightly more 3d.) I don't remember which helicopter model I used....BUT I didn't make it properly , its not accurate thats why I didn't label it specificly. The blades are CG. Some of the front parts were not attached, and the missles weren't attached.
dapoopta 8 Feb 2009 20:49
I'm not sure what editing style I am going for either :-).
Stockshooter 8 Feb 2009 21:33
"Saving Private Ryan" shaky... was brilliant! Couldn't agree more. Reality show editing has become so predictable. Editing styles are just that, styles, each one works within its own area. However, wait 10-20 years and see what stands the test of time. Some styles will still be around depending on target audience, the traditional styles will always be there, because they work.

The helicopter is awfully close to Hind, better ask Despain for a second opinion. The wings and weapon hard-points are the giveaway.

Back to Scott...

I didn't realize that was a raw upload. Makes more sense now. Someone will be able to edit something out of it I'm sure.

Francois
dapoopta 8 Feb 2009 22:03
Someone... WAIT A MINUTE.. are you saying I am not able :-).

Also, did you watch the band video,


http://www.vimeo.com/3127266
Stockshooter 8 Feb 2009 22:37
Scott,

Sorry... I thought uploaded raw footage and that "someone else" was editing it... sheesh, so much lost in translation when it comes to the web...

re: To Kill A Monster - Battle of the Bands WSU 2009 (2.7.09)

notes - Pretty good edit. I really like the 2nd unit off stage right. It would be nice for the main camera to have been on a standard riser 24" high, 3'x6'. That would make a huge difference, just 24 inches of extra height changes everything. Any chance of getting a line level mixed stereo signal from the sound board? Then mix down ambient audience with audio off the board. This live sound has a little too much drum, the guitar, bass and vocals to some extent is lost behind the drums. That said it is clean, which is better than I usually hear.

Budget not being an issue, I'd put an unmanned locked off camera on the drum kit with really wide lens, say just shy of a fish eye. Makes for an interesting cutaway. If I had a couple extra cameras, I'd put a shooter in media black (long sleeve black t-shirt, black pants, black sock and runners) on stage to get discreet close ups. I love the CU tilt up shot of (10:17). Great drummer shot (10:42), nice light and perfect framing!

I may be getting old , but I still love three-chord rock. I've shot plenty of live concerts and the occasional in studio shoots (during recording sessions), they can be fun and spontaneous.

All in all, well done Scott!


Possibly one the best concert films to study - The Cure in Orange (1986) directed by Tim Pope. Somewhere around twelve 35mm Panavision cameras, not 16mm, not video. Simply brilliant! Superb camera work. Editing is simple, clean and captures the spirit of the concert held in a 2000 year old outdoor Roman amphitheater. The sound, possible the best of any concert film from the 1980s.

I'll step off my pulpit now...

Francois
dapoopta 9 Feb 2009 01:58
Thank you for the positive comments Francois. Makes me feel I am doing something good. I like the idea of putting a wide angle behind the drummer, to get the full show. My G/F was running the HV30, and this was her FIRST TIME ever running a video camera. I thought she did amazing. I was up close and personal on the floor. She was so excited about this, and now wants to makes this our 'family' career.

Thanks for the tips on videos to watch. They have another concert coming up, and I might be able to get another camera for it.
Stockshooter 9 Feb 2009 02:03
Scott,

You're on the right track.

Francois
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