Sony FDR AX100 UHD 4K
Videostock50
25 Jul 2014 16:14
@OP <<just clap your hands or whistle>>
Even though it's taken half an hour to get close to that rare bird! ;-))
Even though it's taken half an hour to get close to that rare bird! ;-))
OverheadProductions
25 Jul 2014 17:20
I thought of adding that, guess you could just tap the mic heads
Videostock50
25 Jul 2014 22:38
Also perhaps snapping fingers - not very "Hollywood" but might be effective.
Beckhusen
25 Jul 2014 22:58
Have ordered http://www.sony.de/electronics/handycam-camcorder-mikrofone-lautsprecher/ecm-xyst1m
Mizamook
26 Jul 2014 21:48
AX100 audio shots - not too bad considering it was with "the gear at hand". Not going to say it competes with dedicated kit, but then, it's not.
(ambient noise is wind and waves, plus women talking 20 feet away)
(ambient noise is wind and waves, plus women talking 20 feet away)
SimpleIconic
26 Jul 2014 22:13
Cool shots man.
Beckhusen
27 Jul 2014 08:55
@ Mizamook: Try to get the same shots at a windy day and then think and talk again about the internal audio! ;)
Mizamook
27 Jul 2014 19:29
Thanks, Physics!
Beckhusen: Not sure why we are butting heads on this. There is wind in the raven shot. It just wasn't blowing directly on the camera hard enough to be an issue. I never said wind on the camera mics wasn't a problem with the internal mics when trying to record specific sounds (except for the time I used a sock) but that the internal mics on many cameras are fine for ambient stock use. When I am editing, I am really happy to have ambient audio. It doesn't have to be perfect. Traffic noise, engines, wind, waves, birds, whatever, it's all good, as long as that is what I'm trying to show in the shot. (if it's not, say like if there is traffic noise in your birdsong, then wind isn't an issue then, is it?)
With the raven, my shotgun mic would have been better, but the FS700 was in use monitoring baby raven trying to get their sounds during feedings. Considering I was about 50 feet from the source, I'd say the onboard mics did well enough. Not likely to get a raven to wear a lavalier, either. Being an audio engineer and a nature recordist for over 20 years I know from wind, and here in Haines, we know wind very well. Real wind enough to nearly obliterate any attempt by any mic, except for the large blimp windscreen/dead cat combo, which I am not willing to attach to my AX100.
I use the Sony ECM-MS2 on my FS700, or the short shotgun, both with dead cats. One of these days I'll buy me an 18" Sennheiser shotgun, but hey, it's a big mic! The AX100 is (likely) going to have a big brother fairly soon (this autumn?) that will include pro audio inputs, etc. I'll get that camera, almost guaranteed, but won't always have the audio handle/interface on it!
Peace, man!
Beckhusen: Not sure why we are butting heads on this. There is wind in the raven shot. It just wasn't blowing directly on the camera hard enough to be an issue. I never said wind on the camera mics wasn't a problem with the internal mics when trying to record specific sounds (except for the time I used a sock) but that the internal mics on many cameras are fine for ambient stock use. When I am editing, I am really happy to have ambient audio. It doesn't have to be perfect. Traffic noise, engines, wind, waves, birds, whatever, it's all good, as long as that is what I'm trying to show in the shot. (if it's not, say like if there is traffic noise in your birdsong, then wind isn't an issue then, is it?)
With the raven, my shotgun mic would have been better, but the FS700 was in use monitoring baby raven trying to get their sounds during feedings. Considering I was about 50 feet from the source, I'd say the onboard mics did well enough. Not likely to get a raven to wear a lavalier, either. Being an audio engineer and a nature recordist for over 20 years I know from wind, and here in Haines, we know wind very well. Real wind enough to nearly obliterate any attempt by any mic, except for the large blimp windscreen/dead cat combo, which I am not willing to attach to my AX100.
I use the Sony ECM-MS2 on my FS700, or the short shotgun, both with dead cats. One of these days I'll buy me an 18" Sennheiser shotgun, but hey, it's a big mic! The AX100 is (likely) going to have a big brother fairly soon (this autumn?) that will include pro audio inputs, etc. I'll get that camera, almost guaranteed, but won't always have the audio handle/interface on it!
Peace, man!
dapoopta
27 Jul 2014 21:00
maybe they will make an addon for our ax100's
Beckhusen
27 Jul 2014 21:53
Hey Mizamook, we are not butting heads, not in my mind! ;) Won't jump on your feet, as we say in German.
I only note that the internal mic of the AX100 is in a lot of situations a "no go" and it's much more wind sensitive as the internal mic of my previous Sony camcorder. So i decide only if the audio is well, or if it's not well, ... and i don't like if a little bit stronger wind kills the audio of the video.
Peace accepted :)
I only note that the internal mic of the AX100 is in a lot of situations a "no go" and it's much more wind sensitive as the internal mic of my previous Sony camcorder. So i decide only if the audio is well, or if it's not well, ... and i don't like if a little bit stronger wind kills the audio of the video.
Peace accepted :)